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Elle replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
I agree that sex scenes like violent scenes that develop the characters or characterisation shouldn’t be shy away from. I think the main issues with those kind of scenes is when they turn into the mechanics of what goes where and who does what. The scenes I have read where it have really works were when the reader is in the head of the character,…[Read more]
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
Sorry, a ghost of an idea. I might have a couple of questions for you about subsequent trauma causing people to relive earlier trauma.
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
I can imagine how difficult that must have been to write, Richard, and I would love to read it.
The close POV is definitely a solution. However in my trickiest scene the POV is neither victim nor perpetrator but a sort of onlooker who cannot act. However this discussion has been really useful because I have, at least, realised this is why it is…[Read more]
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Philippa East replied to the topic Example Cover Letter in the forum Blogs 7 years, 7 months ago
BTW I think your book DOES sound very original! Setting, the manananggal etc…. My point was that it is best to ‘show’ this through your blurb and chapters, rather state this claim directly.
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Philippa East replied to the topic Example Cover Letter in the forum Blogs 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Alan,
I really enjoyed “Ice” although it is a very strange book. Worth reading to the end though, if you can.
Yes, my understanding is that Anna Kavan struggled with various problems, including depression and addictions.
It’s probably a bit of an old and obscure novel to use as a comp title, but hope it will lead to other relevant books
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Philippa East started the topic Sophie Draper's "Cuckoo" book launch in the forum Podium 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi guys,
I’m just wondering if any of you are planning to go to Sophie Draper’s book launch in November. I really liked the sound of the book when I heard an extract at York, and I’ve been following Sophie’s progress since then. If any of you are thinking of going, let me know as it will be lovely to meet up around the…[Read more]
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Philippa East replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
It sounds like a really difficult issue, Janeshuff. However well done on you for listening to your reader feedback.
I think as others have suggested, a close psychic distance is your answer. The character’s subjective thoughts, feelings, and reactions can never be gratuitous. These will also advance your plot, by contributing to your character’s…[Read more]
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Philippa East replied to the topic Help with setting in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
Thanks guys. That’s really helpful.
I’m leaning more towards going with a fictional place, although based on a real location to help me be consistent with geographical details. For me, I think it’s becoming clear that there is a particular kind of place I envisage as the setting for this particular story.
Trying to shoehorn my story into a…[Read more]
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RichardB replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
I had a problem like this in my last effort, and it cost me more sweat than anything else in that story. It was all the harder because it was a husband beating up his wife. I really didn’t want to go there and tried everything to skate round it, but the plot demanded that I meet it head-on. In the end I did almost exactly what Jonathan suggests: I…[Read more]
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
Some great ideas in there, thanks Jonathan
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Jonathan replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
I imagine details such as the number of times someone is hit – or even the exact manner – would be gratuitous; I don’t think anyone would keep track and I think it could actually lessen the realism as well as being rather unpleasant to read and write imo. But I do wonder if there is a chance to show character, eg sympathy for the victim by showing…[Read more]
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
Jonathan, I don’t want to write more detail of exactly where and how many times they hit her and how much it hurts (or doesn’t) mainly because I don’t think it advances the scene and would therefore be gratuitous. I’ve tried, now, to write enough for the reader to understand that it was horrifying, callous and caused life-threatening damage (which…[Read more]
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Jonathan replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
My question would be why do you not want to write the scene in more detail? Is it a matter of taste? (ie you’re not keen on doing it) Or is it more in keeping with the rest of the book that way?
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
Thriller/Psychological thriller, Anna. If you have any suggestions of books where you think the violence is done well, I’d be interested!
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Kate replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
I think you’ve just answered your own question. 😀 Good luck with developing it.
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
Kate, I think I am may have let my decision to keep the violence short stop the scene from developing in other ways so I’ve been working on that but I can see, nevertheless, that the violence has been threatened for a long time and I’ve ramped up the tension and fear leading up to it and maybe that is why it seems a let down.
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Kate replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
I’m with you and Sandra on not going graphic. Ramping up the PD and inferring what’s going on rather than full on graphic is definitely my preferred route. BUT, don’t ignore feedback either. What percentage of your Beta readers had this reaction? Could you ask the ones who didn’t mention this how they felt. It may be you’re being too short and…[Read more]
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JaneShuff started the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
I am struggling with editing a couple of violent scenes in my WIP. They need to be there. My preference is to keep them short and allusive (spelling?) and leave the reader’s imagination to do the work but a couple of beta readers have felt cheated. I’d post them but they make no sense out of context. Any advice?
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Giselle replied to the topic I've gone and done it again! in the forum Podium 7 years, 7 months ago
Congratulations! I’m so excited for you, that’s such great news. *lifts glass of wine*
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Giselle replied to the topic Festival Dreams in the forum Blogs 7 years, 7 months ago
Coming in late as I’ve been plunged in post-York wip modifications.
Mandy, you were brilliant, funny, natural, endearing, strong and gracious. Like many, I’ve followed your journey, but to hear it all, from the beginning to now, was just wonderful.
Seeing so many of you at York really charged my batteries. There were definitely less cloudies this…[Read more] - Load More
