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  • Well, I think the subject is obvious this month – Spring. Interpret it any way you want in under 400 words. I know you’ll all be brilliant. Good luck!

  • Debi Alper replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    Oh Hilary! I was alerted to this thread by Ath. I can see you’re taking this well but I know how much it must hurt. I’m going to try to take a step back and see where the agent might have been coming from. Don’t shout at me!

    Agents love books, of course, and get very excited when they are part of the process that leads to publication. For some,…[Read more]

  • Mad Iguana replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    Jeez that’s shocking behaviour. Both from your agent @Hilary and @janette.
    I’ve never got that close – I mean, I’ve had full requests but no more than that – but I’d have thought you could at least rely on agents to be honest.
    We’ve all been blanked on a submission – which is par for the course, even if I don’t particularly like it. But to bring…[Read more]

  • Wow, thanks Libby! Well done to the other participants. I’ll think up some devilishly difficult competition for March and post later tomorrow.

  • Hilary replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    Thank you everyone for your solidarity and kind comments about my writing, and for the encouragement to realise all the positives in this tale as well. And, @janette, for someone not to reply properly having suggested revisions – that is, indeed, unprofessional.

    I am taking a step back from that experience and that novel, and working on the…[Read more]

  • I really enjoyed these stories. Each one had a compelling premise, good narrative drive and strong writing. All were serious contenders. In these circumstances picking a winning comes down, in part at least, to personal preferences.

    I’ve added a few editorial points in my comments in the hope these are useful if you’re going to be developing the…[Read more]

    • @raine – you are in there! Apologies for misspelling your name.

      • Great competition, Libby, and thank you for your comments. Much appreciated. Congratulations John. It is a wonderful story and a worthy winner out of a group of fab stories.

  • Kate replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    How incredibly insensitive of her, Hilary. Of course you were excited and expecting something after being asked to meet her. What on earth was the agent thinking? But, as others have said, there mat be a positive side. Perhaps give yourself time to get some distance then decide if her suggested revision are for you or not.

    And Janette – another…[Read more]

  • RichardB replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    One thing I’m taking away from all this is that it’s never safe to assume you’ve made it until you’re actually holding the book in your hands.

    I used to be contemptuous of writers who go off on hostile rants about the arrogance of agents, assuming they were being paranoid, were unable to face up to not being good enough to be published, and were…[Read more]

  • KazG replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    I’m astounded by all these badly behaved agents, because bad behaviour it is. It’s just rude, and they must understand how galling it is for an author to get their hopes up needlessly – or maybe they don’t. And as for not replying after requesting a full – well, it’s appalling. @janette your experience in particular has me fuming. How can he gush…[Read more]

  • Athelstone replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    Incidentally, as this year I am coasting towards the age where I am ‘losing my hair’, and wondering whether I will be locked out at quarter to three (never mind getting a bottle of wine for my birthday or a Valentine’s card), I suppose I should resign myself to joining that league of elderly no-hopers that includes Hilary Mantel, Philip Pullman…[Read more]

  • JaneShuff replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    Oh Hilary and Janette, I feel for you. Somehow it’s much harder when your hopes have been raised. I guess they’ve got further to fall.

    @Janette. I understand that agents receive zillions of submissions everyday and can’t respond personally to each one but I do think, when they’ve requested a full or asked for edits to be made, they could at leas…[Read more]

  • Janette replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    Hilary, I am seething with outrage. Firstly, let me say your writing is beautiful and the comp entries we have both seen and heard about are testament to that. I’m not surprised but very pleased to hear that you had those full requests, but to drag you down to London only to relay so many negatives – including your age for goodness sake – that’s…[Read more]

  • In the news this morning: several actresses walked out of the César awards (the French Oscars) after convicted rapist Roman Polanski won Best Director for his film ‘J’Accuse’ (‘An Officer and a Spy’). Obviously the French film academy considers that a work should be judged on its own merits rather on the morals of who’s responsible for it.…[Read more]

  • RichardB replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    Hilary, my reactions to this are twofold. First, intense sympathy for you. What an awful let-down! Even if she did make clear what the actual purpose of the meeting was, it shows a certain sense of entitlement (as Ath said) to expect you to come running to London at the crook of a finger just for a chat about revisions. And if it never occurred to…[Read more]

  • Hilary replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 2 months ago

    To be fair, she didn’t say it was about representation. I just thought/hoped it would be. She said it was to discuss suggested revisions and how we might work together. As well as the thing about commercial/literary, there were so many aspects of the book that she thought didn’t work, I even asked her why she had wanted to meet me and she said…[Read more]

  • I sort of worry a bit when I see agents pushing writers this way. In fact, my hackles start to hack or rise or whatever they’d do if I had them. Book Club fiction is Literary Fiction that agents reckon they should be able to sell better than average. As for this splitting of work into ever more categories as though this is some kind of scientific…[Read more]

  • Raine replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 2 months ago

    Oh blimey Hilary! What a demoralising experience! Did she mention your age ina negative ‘this is offputting’ kind of way? Because that’s outrageous if so. And you’re right – I see so many ‘I got my first book deal at x yrs old’ that I would never have expected it to be an issue. My guess/hope is that this agent is perhaps the exception rather than…[Read more]

  • Rachel agreed, in the end, to a bath.

    The water was hot. There were bubbles. The scent made her think of purple.

    She closed her eyes. Lowered herself, let her hands float, slid down until her head was under water. She let the breath go out of her and waited. Slowly, she pushed herself back up. Water dripped from her face, her hair. Steam…[Read more]

  • I’ve been thinking of posting something about this for a while, and have been prompted to do so by Sandra’s link to the Bookouture post about commercial fiction.

    I began submitting my novel to agents in July last year. I had my first full request the next day, even though it was the weekend, so you can imagine my excitement. I received two more…[Read more]

    • Sorry – the spreadtheword post with bookouture editors.

    • Your post has made me rage! Well done on getting all those requests for the full. But why on God’s green earth would an agent drag you all the way to London for a chat, without first making it clear that she was not going to represent you. You may have wanted to take advantage of the rare opportunity for a face to face anyway, but could she not…[Read more]

      • Thanks for your rage! It was an expensive journey, too. Not off peak so I could not even use my SENIOR railcard!!

        • To be fair, she did say the meeting was to discuss suggested revisions and talk about how we might work together.

          • Gosh @hilary, I am raging on your behalf too! This all sounds so demoralising, and I do admire your fortitude in picking yourself up and starting a new book. I hope you’ll focus on the fact that you had lots of requests for a full ms – even on a weekend!! – and take Raine’s advice and submit again. As you rightly say, many agents have book club…[Read more]

  • Shades of the Prison House

    Freddie worries about his snail as he trudges through the iron gates. Will she remember to give it the lettuce leaves? There’d been no time before they left what with packing his bag with pencils and crayons. And was there anything else he wanted to take? A toy? Something to play with the other children? No, he c…[Read more]

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