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Sandra started the topic Especially recommended books in the forum Blogs 6 years, 4 months ago
Yes, there’s a load of ‘How-to’books out there, and how useful they are depends very much upon the user, but I thought there might be a place to list not every book we use, but the most useful.
To start, and more specifically for crime writers, I can thoroughly recommend ‘The real CSI’ by Kate Bendelow. Kate did a workshop at the ‘Crime &…[Read more]
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John S Alty started the topic March competition in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 4 months ago
Well, I think the subject is obvious this month – Spring. Interpret it any way you want in under 400 words. I know you’ll all be brilliant. Good luck!
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Sandra replied to the topic Monthly competition – February 2020 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 4 months ago
Well done John, and thank you Libby for a competition which led to so many brilliant stories – what richness!
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Mad Iguana replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 4 months ago
Jeez that’s shocking behaviour. Both from your agent @Hilary and @janette.
I’ve never got that close – I mean, I’ve had full requests but no more than that – but I’d have thought you could at least rely on agents to be honest.
We’ve all been blanked on a submission – which is par for the course, even if I don’t particularly like it. But to bring…[Read more] -
John S Alty replied to the topic Monthly competition – February 2020 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 4 months ago
Wow, thanks Libby! Well done to the other participants. I’ll think up some devilishly difficult competition for March and post later tomorrow.
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Hilary replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 4 months ago
Thank you everyone for your solidarity and kind comments about my writing, and for the encouragement to realise all the positives in this tale as well. And, @janette, for someone not to reply properly having suggested revisions – that is, indeed, unprofessional.
I am taking a step back from that experience and that novel, and working on the…[Read more]
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Athelstone replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 4 months ago
Incidentally, as this year I am coasting towards the age where I am ‘losing my hair’, and wondering whether I will be locked out at quarter to three (never mind getting a bottle of wine for my birthday or a Valentine’s card), I suppose I should resign myself to joining that league of elderly no-hopers that includes Hilary Mantel, Philip Pullman…[Read more]
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 4 months ago
Oh Hilary and Janette, I feel for you. Somehow itโs much harder when your hopes have been raised. I guess theyโve got further to fall.
@Janette. I understand that agents receive zillions of submissions everyday and canโt respond personally to each one but I do think, when theyโve requested a full or asked for edits to be made, they could at leas…[Read more]
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Sandra replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 4 months ago
Hilary, as an aside, the Bookoture girl did say she had a 96 year-old on her list for whom she had so far published some 23 ‘cosy crime’ novels. ‘One every couple of weeks’ she said.
Feedback today from those who did pitch to her said she refused most straight off. Made suggestions to make more acceptable to one and I now of another who pitched…[Read more]
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Hilary replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 4 months ago
To be fair, she didn’t say it was about representation. I just thought/hoped it would be. She said it was to discuss suggested revisions and how we might work together. As well as the thing about commercial/literary, there were so many aspects of the book that she thought didn’t work, I even asked her why she had wanted to meet me and she said…[Read more]
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Athelstone replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 4 months ago
I sort of worry a bit when I see agents pushing writers this way. In fact, my hackles start to hack or rise or whatever they’d do if I had them. Book Club fiction is Literary Fiction that agents reckon they should be able to sell better than average. As for this splitting of work into ever more categories as though this is some kind of scientific…[Read more]
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Hilary replied to the topic Monthly competition – February 2020 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 4 months ago
Rachel agreed, in the end, to a bath.
The water was hot. There were bubbles. The scent made her think of purple.
She closed her eyes. Lowered herself, let her hands float, slid down until her head was under water. She let the breath go out of her and waited. Slowly, she pushed herself back up. Water dripped from her face, her hair. Steam…[Read more]
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Hilary started the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 4 months ago
I’ve been thinking of posting something about this for a while, and have been prompted to do so by Sandra’s link to the Bookouture post about commercial fiction.
I began submitting my novel to agents in July last year. I had my first full request the next day, even though it was the weekend, so you can imagine my excitement. I received two more…[Read more]
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Sorry – the spreadtheword post with bookouture editors.
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Your post has made me rage! Well done on getting all those requests for the full. But why on God’s green earth would an agent drag you all the way to London for a chat, without first making it clear that she was not going to represent you. You may have wanted to take advantage of the rare opportunity for a face to face anyway, but could she not…[Read more]
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Thanks for your rage! It was an expensive journey, too. Not off peak so I could not even use my SENIOR railcard!!
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To be fair, she did say the meeting was to discuss suggested revisions and talk about how we might work together.
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Gosh @hilary, I am raging on your behalf too! This all sounds so demoralising, and I do admire your fortitude in picking yourself up and starting a new book. I hope you’ll focus on the fact that you had lots of requests for a full ms – even on a weekend!! – and take Raine’s advice and submit again. As you rightly say, many agents have book club…[Read more]
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Sandra posted an update 6 years, 4 months ago
Useful definition of ‘commercial fiction’ from Bookouture : https://www.spreadtheword.org.uk/unpicking-commercial-fiction-with-bookoutures-editors/?fbclid=IwAR2FfqSMY8Ms3zZe4lrExLhphK9X5Xab6lLU330ZQG5-dDxpRkbxYeodKVM
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Thanks, Sandra. As you say, this is useful.
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Very clear!
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Yes, this was interesting, especially, to me, the mention of book club fiction. I can feel a blog coming on…
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But also worth noting, Karen Sullivan of Orenda Books specifically states she likes books that cross genres; said so two years ago and repeated it Tuesday night.
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Monthly competition – February 2020 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 4 months ago
Shades of the Prison House
Freddie worries about his snail as he trudges through the iron gates. Will she remember to give it the lettuce leaves? Thereโd been no time before they left what with packing his bag with pencils and crayons. And was there anything else he wanted to take? A toy? Something to play with the other children? No, he c…[Read more]
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Mad Iguana replied to the topic What if I'm a bad human being? in the forum Blogs 6 years, 4 months ago
I’m late to this debate, but it’s a very interesting one, so I hope no-one minds me resurrecting it.
My view on this is very utilitarian (I think), in that I always – consciously or unconsciously – try to work out whether the value of the book/music/art/movie/whatever is greater to me than the cost of reading/listening/watching it.
And the…[Read more]
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JaneShuff posted an update 6 years, 4 months ago
If anyone wants to see where I live, it’s in todays’s Guardian!
https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2020/feb/22/five-lesser-known-holiday-destinations-in-france-
Oh they all look amazing @janeshuff, which one is your home town?
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Le Conquet. And the first picture shows the Blanc Sablons beach. We live just above it and I look out at the same headlands and sea every morning from the room upstairs where I write. Can’t see them today because it’s drizzly and misty!
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I spent a week last year at St Just, which is the English equivalent to Le Conquet – the westernmost town in England. i loved it, and I’d guess that Le Conquet has much of the same edge-of-the-map feeling about it. What a nice place to live you have. If I weren’t so fond of my own home I’d be quite envious.
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Wow, what a beautiful place to live and to write @janeshuff ๐
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There are some lovely things about living here but, like everywhere, it has its not so great points!
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It does look a lovely place, and you have the best of both worlds there as it’s not too far to go to cross the Channel ๐
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How lovely.
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I am envious.
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That’s gorgeous!
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Sandra posted an update 6 years, 4 months ago
Fiona Erskine aka Bric has a launch of her second book coming up and as I can’t go, asked me to pass on the invitation:
#The Chemical Reaction is launching at Blackwell’s bookshop in Holborn, London on the evening of Thursday 16th April 2020. -
Athelstone replied to the topic What if I'm a bad human being? in the forum Blogs 6 years, 4 months ago
Of course, I hadn’t fully considered how many cases there are until I started this. For instance, I read We Need to Talk About Kevin long before I knew anything about Lionel Shriver – possibly before she had begun the process of disseminating her curious bag of libertarian views* across the media and the web. I still consider it a beautifully…[Read more]
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John S Alty replied to the topic Monthly competition – February 2020 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 4 months ago
New Day
The smoke from cooking fires lay like a grey blanket over Alexandra township and a tangerine sun rose behind it, then burst clear and threw its warming mantle over the land. The windows of the high-rise buildings on the distant Johannesburg skyline glinted like slabs of molten gold. A typical autumn dawn on the highveld but this was not a…[Read more]
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