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RichardB replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 4 years, 11 months ago
Credit where credit is due: I believe it was Libby who first used the phrase ‘instinctive writer,’ even if she was replying to me.
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Squidge replied to the topic Monthly competition July 2021 in the forum Monthly Competition 4 years, 11 months ago
It was the same every year.
She took as many precautions as possible, wrapping everything carefully, keeping the box closed tight until the right moment came, making sure her hands were washed clean when it did.
And then…
Ordering everyone to sit down, sit still. Questioning each participant in turn to make sure she knew their exact r…[Read more]
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Squidge replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 4 years, 11 months ago
Wowser…beta reading…
As a beta reader, I do try to find something good to say as well as making suggestions for improvements. I don’t think I go into it with a checklist per se – I use gut feeling a lot as to what feels ‘right’ to me as a reader. But I sometimess feel that I’m not an objective enough beta reader – I don’t always ‘get’ other…[Read more]
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RichardB replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 4 years, 11 months ago
I’m probably too instinctive for my own good. I’ve been told at various times that I have a natural feel for plot and pace, that my characters speak with their own distinctive voices, even that I’m good at that notoriously difficult thing, sex, but I never step aside and coldly think about any of these things. When I see phrases like…[Read more]
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RichardB replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 4 years, 12 months ago
I don’t reckon myself as much of a beta reader either. Partly it may be lack of confidence in my own opinions, but mostly I think it’s because I seem to have trouble thinking analytically about writing, including my own. Years ago when I did the S-E Course, I repeatedly had the experience of Debi, or one of the others, telling me I’d been clever…[Read more]
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Athelstone replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 4 years, 12 months ago
Why do you say you’re a terrible beta reader?
It’s a bit like when I had to read books for exams at school. It was no reflection on the work itself and I’ve read many of the books since with great pleasure. Something about picking up a book for a purpose (a meta-purpose if you like) that isn’t simply pleasure, idle curiosity, whatever, and my…[Read more]
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 4 years, 12 months ago
Wow. So so much interesting and useful stuff, @Libby ! It would make a brilliant checklist for anyone. It will take me a bit of time to assimilate it all. I will say though, with my ‘Being betaread’ hat on, that I wouldn’t expect a beta reader of a whole novel to cover all that for me in one go if anyone is feeling a bit daunted.
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Athelstone replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 4 years, 12 months ago
Thanks for the topic. May I add that I’m a terrible beta reader. I would like to be more useful and hope to pick up some tips if this discussion develops and hopefully turns into something more.
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JaneShuff started the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 4 years, 12 months ago
Here’s a separate topic for a discussion about Beta Reading. Please feel free to contribute to the discussion both on your experiences of having your work beta read and on beta reading other people’s book.
I’ll kick it off by repeating that Beta Reading has taught me a lot. I approach it from my experience of the book as a reader. Noting down my…[Read more]
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RichardB replied to the topic "I write like" in the forum Coffee Shop 4 years, 12 months ago
Yes, in my first passage my MC was being smitten at his first sight of a young lady, and in the second someone was getting blasted with a shotgun. Hmm, content…
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JaneShuff replied to the topic "I write like" in the forum Coffee Shop 4 years, 12 months ago
James Joyce!
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JaneShuff replied to the topic "I write like" in the forum Coffee Shop 4 years, 12 months ago
I’ll try with a more lyrical section… watch this space.
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JaneShuff replied to the topic "I write like" in the forum Coffee Shop 4 years, 12 months ago
Ha ha! I write like Stephen King! I think Libby is right though and the program looks at content mostly as this was a particularly horror full section!
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RichardB replied to the topic "I write like" in the forum Coffee Shop 4 years, 12 months ago
Now there’s interesting, as we say in Wales. Based on two short extracts from the last novel I wrote, I write either like James Joyce or (wait for it) Dan Brown. Not much difference…
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Athelstone replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 4 years, 12 months ago
What I meant was that we can post images now, providing they are online somewhere. That said, like many things on the Den, it’s a bit hit and miss whether it works.

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Athelstone replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 5 years ago
Hi – that was a reply to Sandra, just for avoidance of confusion. Yes, there are several very appealing forums available, including Discourse (and I must say as a longtime repairer, I like your forum and the topic). That said, with Discourse, we would need a VPS or similar non-shared server arrangement*, unlike a traditional web-host, so the…[Read more]
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JaneShuff replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 5 years ago
Random comments:
Yes to Beta Reading, but, time permitting, I’ve always been a keen beta reader. I honestly think the beta reader learns as much from the process as the writer, but I’m not keen on the financial aspect. I know Thea posted a request for beta readers recently. Did anyone respond @thea ?
And on that subject, I’d welcome a discussion…[Read more]-
Hi @janeshuff, the only response to my beta reading request was your kind message explaining that you aren’t able to help at present. After a month or so, I deleted the request.
I agree that it would be beneficial to have a discussion about beta reading. As you said, it’s a good learning process for both reader and writer. I guess the first thing…[Read more]
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Barny replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 5 years ago
OK, but what about the many other advantages of discourse?
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Barny replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 5 years ago
@athelstone have you looked at moving to a 21st century forum like discourse? I use it on talk.restarters.net and it’s pretty slick. You can get email notifications and reply by email; can upload pictures, has trust levels and you can restrict areas.
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Athelstone replied to the topic Monthly competition July 2021 in the forum Monthly Competition 5 years ago
Sand
Mum was a good woman. I say was; I mean is. She’s still alive. But since the diagnosis of dementia, well, for a long while before that, I knew she was slipping away.
She sits with me as I work.
I have a phone to repair. A capacitor has failed, a tiny surface-mount component. It is fiddly and the manufacturer won’t replace it. But I wil…[Read more]
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