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  • Hilary replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    Thank you everyone for your solidarity and kind comments about my writing, and for the encouragement to realise all the positives in this tale as well. And, @janette, for someone not to reply properly having suggested revisions – that is, indeed, unprofessional.

    I am taking a step back from that experience and that novel, and working on the…[Read more]

  • RichardB replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    One thing I’m taking away from all this is that it’s never safe to assume you’ve made it until you’re actually holding the book in your hands.

    I used to be contemptuous of writers who go off on hostile rants about the arrogance of agents, assuming they were being paranoid, were unable to face up to not being good enough to be published, and were…[Read more]

  • Athelstone replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    Incidentally, as this year I am coasting towards the age where I am ‘losing my hair’, and wondering whether I will be locked out at quarter to three (never mind getting a bottle of wine for my birthday or a Valentine’s card), I suppose I should resign myself to joining that league of elderly no-hopers that includes Hilary Mantel, Philip Pullman…[Read more]

  • JaneShuff replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    Oh Hilary and Janette, I feel for you. Somehow it’s much harder when your hopes have been raised. I guess they’ve got further to fall.

    @Janette. I understand that agents receive zillions of submissions everyday and can’t respond personally to each one but I do think, when they’ve requested a full or asked for edits to be made, they could at leas…[Read more]

  • Janette replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    Hilary, I am seething with outrage. Firstly, let me say your writing is beautiful and the comp entries we have both seen and heard about are testament to that. I’m not surprised but very pleased to hear that you had those full requests, but to drag you down to London only to relay so many negatives – including your age for goodness sake – that’s…[Read more]

  • In the news this morning: several actresses walked out of the César awards (the French Oscars) after convicted rapist Roman Polanski won Best Director for his film ‘J’Accuse’ (‘An Officer and a Spy’). Obviously the French film academy considers that a work should be judged on its own merits rather on the morals of who’s responsible for it.…[Read more]

  • RichardB replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    Hilary, my reactions to this are twofold. First, intense sympathy for you. What an awful let-down! Even if she did make clear what the actual purpose of the meeting was, it shows a certain sense of entitlement (as Ath said) to expect you to come running to London at the crook of a finger just for a chat about revisions. And if it never occurred to…[Read more]

  • Sandra replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    Hilary, as an aside, the Bookoture girl did say she had a 96 year-old on her list for whom she had so far published some 23 ‘cosy crime’ novels. ‘One every couple of weeks’ she said.

    Feedback today from those who did pitch to her said she refused most straight off. Made suggestions to make more acceptable to one and I now of another who pitched…[Read more]

  • Hilary replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    To be fair, she didn’t say it was about representation. I just thought/hoped it would be. She said it was to discuss suggested revisions and how we might work together. As well as the thing about commercial/literary, there were so many aspects of the book that she thought didn’t work, I even asked her why she had wanted to meet me and she said…[Read more]

  • Athelstone replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    I sort of worry a bit when I see agents pushing writers this way. In fact, my hackles start to hack or rise or whatever they’d do if I had them. Book Club fiction is Literary Fiction that agents reckon they should be able to sell better than average. As for this splitting of work into ever more categories as though this is some kind of scientific…[Read more]

  • Raine replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    Oh blimey Hilary! What a demoralising experience! Did she mention your age ina negative ‘this is offputting’ kind of way? Because that’s outrageous if so. And you’re right – I see so many ‘I got my first book deal at x yrs old’ that I would never have expected it to be an issue. My guess/hope is that this agent is perhaps the exception rather than…[Read more]

  • Rachel agreed, in the end, to a bath.

    The water was hot. There were bubbles. The scent made her think of purple.

    She closed her eyes. Lowered herself, let her hands float, slid down until her head was under water. She let the breath go out of her and waited. Slowly, she pushed herself back up. Water dripped from her face, her hair. Steam…[Read more]

  • Hilary started the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago

    I’ve been thinking of posting something about this for a while, and have been prompted to do so by Sandra’s link to the Bookouture post about commercial fiction.

    I began submitting my novel to agents in July last year. I had my first full request the next day, even though it was the weekend, so you can imagine my excitement. I received two more…[Read more]

    • Sorry – the spreadtheword post with bookouture editors.

    • Your post has made me rage! Well done on getting all those requests for the full. But why on God’s green earth would an agent drag you all the way to London for a chat, without first making it clear that she was not going to represent you. You may have wanted to take advantage of the rare opportunity for a face to face anyway, but could she not…[Read more]

      • Thanks for your rage! It was an expensive journey, too. Not off peak so I could not even use my SENIOR railcard!!

        • To be fair, she did say the meeting was to discuss suggested revisions and talk about how we might work together.

          • Gosh @hilary, I am raging on your behalf too! This all sounds so demoralising, and I do admire your fortitude in picking yourself up and starting a new book. I hope you’ll focus on the fact that you had lots of requests for a full ms – even on a weekend!! – and take Raine’s advice and submit again. As you rightly say, many agents have book club…[Read more]

  • Shades of the Prison House

    Freddie worries about his snail as he trudges through the iron gates. Will she remember to give it the lettuce leaves? There’d been no time before they left what with packing his bag with pencils and crayons. And was there anything else he wanted to take? A toy? Something to play with the other children? No, he c…[Read more]

  • I’m late to this debate, but it’s a very interesting one, so I hope no-one minds me resurrecting it.

    My view on this is very utilitarian (I think), in that I always – consciously or unconsciously – try to work out whether the value of the book/music/art/movie/whatever is greater to me than the cost of reading/listening/watching it.

    And the…[Read more]

  • A Spill of Tea

    I thought I’d bagged the prize of a lifetime when I landed my new job and the salary that came with it. The buzz about the café I’d worked at was great, but buzz didn’t pay bills, did it? Buzz didn’t afford a better flat, one I felt comfortable inviting friends back to; a holiday now and then. This new opportunity, it felt like win…[Read more]

  • Very little time this week, so throwing this one up before I read it again and spot all the errors!!

    Enter the darkness

    One hundred days, of which this is the first. We stand in snow that has crusted metallic overnight, not yet deep although that will come tomorrow, I think. It is eleven forty-five and we stand in a ragged line at the edge of…[Read more]

  • JaneShuff posted an update 6 years, 2 months ago

    If anyone wants to see where I live, it’s in todays’s Guardian!
    https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2020/feb/22/five-lesser-known-holiday-destinations-in-france

  • Sandra posted an update 6 years, 2 months ago

    Fiona Erskine aka Bric has a launch of her second book coming up and as I can’t go, asked me to pass on the invitation:
    #The Chemical Reaction is launching at Blackwell’s bookshop in Holborn, London on the evening of Thursday 16th April 2020.

    • Aw shuks, I doubt I’d be able to make it either. Please pass on my apologies as well as my best wishes.

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