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Sandra replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 5 years ago
@ Libby – I confess I never print off an MS even for my own novels, but I do, when I’m feeling confident that the end is nigh, order it as a paperback book from Blurb.
@ Richard – thank you for that description ‘instinctive writer’ which very accurately describes my creative approach (and as an artist too) It may sound like a talent but the…[Read more]
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Sandra replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 5 years ago
WHOOPS and apologies – I missed this, through being away and then returning with much to catch up with.
I’ve many, many reasons to be immeasurably grateful for the careful reading, insight and sensible, sensitive suggestions put forward by several beta readers of my novels while being aware that I am likely a poor beta reader, partly because I…[Read more] -
Squidge replied to the topic Monthly competition July 2021 in the forum Monthly Competition 5 years ago
It was the same every year.
She took as many precautions as possible, wrapping everything carefully, keeping the box closed tight until the right moment came, making sure her hands were washed clean when it did.
And then…
Ordering everyone to sit down, sit still. Questioning each participant in turn to make sure she knew their exact r…[Read more]
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Bella replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 5 years ago
I also don’t beta read to any sort of checklist. I will always check first with the author what they particularly want feedback on – if they feel something might not be working, but aren’t sure, or whatever. Then I will make sure to address those issues, as well as make other comments as I think necessary.
I have quite a sharp eye from the…[Read more]
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Squidge replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago
Wowser…beta reading…
As a beta reader, I do try to find something good to say as well as making suggestions for improvements. I don’t think I go into it with a checklist per se – I use gut feeling a lot as to what feels ‘right’ to me as a reader. But I sometimess feel that I’m not an objective enough beta reader – I don’t always ‘get’ other…[Read more]
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Kate started the topic Short story acceptance in the forum Podium 5 years, 1 month ago
I woke up this morning to an acceptance email for a witchy short story from All Worlds Wayfarer. 😃
Thanks to the Songs of Innocence writing challenge which brought this story into being.
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Kate replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago
I’ve found beta reading an excellent way to learn. I think it’s easier to see crafting mistakes in others work, and then I try to carry that knowledge across to my own writing. Easier said than done.
I always jot margin notes as I read to record my initial reactions. It’s harder on a reread to see the parts that jolt me, and you only get one…[Read more]
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Athelstone replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago
Why do you say you’re a terrible beta reader?
It’s a bit like when I had to read books for exams at school. It was no reflection on the work itself and I’ve read many of the books since with great pleasure. Something about picking up a book for a purpose (a meta-purpose if you like) that isn’t simply pleasure, idle curiosity, whatever, and my…[Read more]
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Athelstone replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago
Thanks for the topic. May I add that I’m a terrible beta reader. I would like to be more useful and hope to pick up some tips if this discussion develops and hopefully turns into something more.
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Athelstone replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago
What I meant was that we can post images now, providing they are online somewhere. That said, like many things on the Den, it’s a bit hit and miss whether it works.

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Sandra replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago
Sorry Ath, but I didn’t reply to your “images have always been here, just not uploading images” because I wasn’t sure what you were getting at.
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Athelstone replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago
Hi – that was a reply to Sandra, just for avoidance of confusion. Yes, there are several very appealing forums available, including Discourse (and I must say as a longtime repairer, I like your forum and the topic). That said, with Discourse, we would need a VPS or similar non-shared server arrangement*, unlike a traditional web-host, so the…[Read more]
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Barny replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago
OK, but what about the many other advantages of discourse?
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Sandra replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago
I do think Bella’s beta readers might be an idea, but perhaps, at least to start with, omit the financial bit and just set up a register of those willing and those wanting, with some detail of genre, etc and the willingness to send a sample chapter to see if they’re compatible.
And the possibility of uploading pictures, I’d say Handle With Care,…[Read more]
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Barny replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago
@athelstone have you looked at moving to a 21st century forum like discourse? I use it on talk.restarters.net and it’s pretty slick. You can get email notifications and reply by email; can upload pictures, has trust levels and you can restrict areas.
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Bella replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago
Also – apologies of lack of participation. The Covid situation has totally mucked up my mojo. I’ve not written a word, stopped playing my (relatively new) sax, hardly even read a thing blah blah blah. It is what it is. I have developed an obsession with weightlifting, so haven’t been entirely idle! But I’m starting to feel the odd twinges of…[Read more]
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Bella replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago
I’ve long thought that people would bite your arm off for a decent beta reading service.
I flung out an idea on Jericho Townhouse ages ago along the lines of: author pays £X to Jericho who assigns the MS to a selected beta reader from their pool. There is a standard rubric the beta reader must follow (timescale, topics covered, length of…[Read more]
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Athelstone replied to the topic Monthly competition July 2021 in the forum Monthly Competition 5 years, 1 month ago
Sand
Mum was a good woman. I say was; I mean is. She’s still alive. But since the diagnosis of dementia, well, for a long while before that, I knew she was slipping away.
She sits with me as I work.
I have a phone to repair. A capacitor has failed, a tiny surface-mount component. It is fiddly and the manufacturer won’t replace it. But I wil…[Read more]
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Sandra replied to the topic Monthly competition July 2021 in the forum Monthly Competition 5 years, 1 month ago
“Above the tideline”
first line provided by Thomas A ClarkeAbove the tideline, an old blue rope is entangled in a bramble bush. I gaze at it while retying my hair, turning to face into the wind, risking the scratch of sand beneath my already sore eyelids; its crunching against my teeth.
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Barny replied to the topic Monthly Competition – June 2021 in the forum Monthly Competition 5 years, 1 month ago
Well done, Libby – a deserved win!! And thanks Ath.
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