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Sandra replied to the topic Terminal discouragement? in the forum Coffee Shop 6 years, 12 months ago
At the risk of sounding ageist, is it not the case that a high(ish) percentage of those doing degrees/Masters are quite young, and are unlikely to yet have the confidence/experience to ignore publishers et al?
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Jonathan replied to the topic Terminal discouragement? in the forum Coffee Shop 6 years, 12 months ago
Thanks Richard. I like that “I wrote it like that because I like it like that. And screw you.” I fully support the misuse of craft in the name of creation. I wrote a piece that was full of (intentional) spelling mistakes, probably because I’d recently read The Gallows Pole and I liked the way it conveys voice and place via imperfection, and was…[Read more]
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RichardB replied to the topic Terminal discouragement? in the forum Coffee Shop 6 years, 12 months ago
Ah, Jonathan, you and I (and Harry) are thinking along the same lines. And yes, there is more. The full blog is here:
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Jonathan replied to the topic Terminal discouragement? in the forum Coffee Shop 6 years, 12 months ago
Regarding this point:
this would seem to suggest that all the stuff he mentions in the first para, all the work we do to improve our writing, all the hanging out we do in places like the Den and, yes, Jericho Wtiters too, is a waste of time.
I’ve not seen the writeup so I don’t know if there’s any more? Is there a link to it or is it…[Read more]
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RichardB replied to the topic Terminal discouragement? in the forum Coffee Shop 6 years, 12 months ago
When I was (a lot) younger I used to snort in contempt when I read in an author’s bio on a book cover, usually American in those days, that they had a degree in creative writing. Hah! I thought, either you got it or you ain’t. You can’t teach it like you can physics or history. It’s not hard and fast stuff like that.
Much later, after discovering…[Read more]
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Terminal discouragement? in the forum Coffee Shop 6 years, 12 months ago
I always thought that one of the strengths of the SE course was the range of different books people were working on within each group if they were anything like mine – children’s, YA, fantasy,crime noir, women’s fiction, literary fiction and so on. It made it unlikely that you’d start picking up on each other’s styles.
Thank you for the book…[Read more]
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Sandra replied to the topic Terminal discouragement? in the forum Coffee Shop 6 years, 12 months ago
To some extent (not that I’ve done any really full-on writing courses, just SE, some reading and building on experience) I do notice that my very early writing has a freshness of approach that more recent, more self-conscious writing does not.
And I do cheer when I come across writers such as Eimear McBride and Eley Williams (both James Tait…[Read more]
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Terminal discouragement? in the forum Coffee Shop 6 years, 12 months ago
Sometimes Harry talks a lot of blah. Sometimes he makes a lot of sense. But that’s true of us all, I guess. Agents/publishers do want writers with their own voice but they equally want something that they can sell and that, sadly, does mean it needs to fit into a category of some sort. It’s a difficult balance I think and there’s a lot of luck involved.
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Bella replied to the topic Terminal discouragement? in the forum Coffee Shop 6 years, 12 months ago
On the subject of having the courage of oneās own convictions I see that Imtiaz Dharker has turned down the role of Poet Laureate so she can concentrate on her own work.
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Bella replied to the topic Terminal discouragement? in the forum Coffee Shop 6 years, 12 months ago
The glib answer is āthatās just his opinionā. I think UWS probably does exist and I donāt understand why he is slating it. My impression is that an agent faced with a synopsis they like and an MS written in UWS will say āyippeeā. I donāt think real originality is as prized as it should be, at least not when it comes to trad publishing. S…[Read more]
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RichardB started the topic Terminal discouragement? in the forum Coffee Shop 6 years, 12 months ago
I came upon this gem of advice from The Fuehrer at JW:
One of the problem with all those MFA courses, those university diplomas in Creative Writing, the workshops, the peer-to-peer critiquing stuff is that writers end up with style all right . . . but they can all end up sounding the same.
Because we at Jericho Writers do a lot of editorial work…[Read more]
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RichardB replied to the topic Bi-Monthly Comp – May/June 2019 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 12 months ago
You seem to have set a fire with your idea, Raine: even I’m having a go. Yet more apologies: 408 words.
The Last House
There’s freedom and there’s freedom. Sleeping rough and scavenging for food is freedom, but not the sort that appeals to me. And that’s exactly what I’ll be doing tonight if something doesn’t turn up. Another night’s B&B will…[Read more]
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Sandra replied to the topic Bi-Monthly Comp – May/June 2019 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 12 months ago
Drink with a dead man – and apologies, 410 words
Innocuous in colour as a Rich Tea biscuit, the envelope was angled so as to fit into the grey metal cell of the Post Restante box. Illuminated by the single bare bulb in the narrow passage between front and rear of the shop, the vertical/horizontal of the letterās shadow made of it a hitman, w…[Read more]
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Athelstone replied to the topic Bi-Monthly Comp – May/June 2019 in the forum Monthly Competition 7 years ago
The Memory Thing
I think it was reproach: that look on his face; or maybe despair. I only had a second to work it out as he fell backwards onto the tracks. Thatās an odd way to put it. I mean, I wasnāt actually trying to work anything out, let alone his expression. And I was shocked; I hardly registered what happened. This man, this young man…[Read more]
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Bi-Monthly Comp – May/June 2019 in the forum Monthly Competition 7 years ago
Excellent idea Raine
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Raine started the topic Bi-Monthly Comp – May/June 2019 in the forum Monthly Competition 7 years ago
I’m trying out a different format for this based on discussions, so am giving us a two month window to help more people post. There wasn’t a massive consensus on how to select winners so for this one, I’ll stick to just me choosing, unless anyone wants to message me their preferences and then I’ll make it a combined thing.
So… the task this…[Read more]
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Raine replied to the topic Monthly comp: Feb 2019 in the forum Monthly Competition 7 years ago
Awesome!! Thank-you @jd73, and everyone for your well dones. š I didn’t get round to reading the others til yesterday, and loved them all, brilliant endings in each one. So well done to you guys too. š
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Athelstone replied to the topic Monthly comp: Feb 2019 in the forum Monthly Competition 7 years ago
Fabulous piece, Raine.
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Jonathan replied to the topic Monthly comp: Feb 2019 in the forum Monthly Competition 7 years ago
Okeydoke we got there in the end, it looks like. Thank you all for your stories (and screenplay) – I enjoyed reading them all. However one winner it has always been and one winner it will be tonight and that winner, for the enchanting voice, the sinister ā yet strangely beautiful ā turns of phrase, and the macabre subtlety of it all, from the tit…[Read more]
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Athelstone posted an update 7 years ago
So, Jericho Writers has (have?) scrapped the Townhouse forum and launched Jericho Townhouse which is open to the public and free, it seems.
https://is-tracking-link-api-prod.appspot.com/api/v1/click/5347572672102400/6493349099864064
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Thanks for befriending me on the JT, Ath! Now I’m off to find Kate. For greetings on JT it’ll be a question of ‘and anyone else who knows me’ until I get the hang of things.
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You’re very welcome. I think I saw Kate, but I wasn’t sure whether it was Kate, if you know what I mean. I was going to wait until she adds a photo
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I’ve just asked her on our group thread. There could be lesser Kates out there …
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Well, the “k” on the JT kate is lower case, which doesn’t seem like her at all.
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And now it’s upper case. How confusing.
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Hi Athers, I’ve joined JT to see what WordCloud Mk2 looks like – and asked to be your friend š I think, while we all wished Harry well with JerryCoats, we thought it would come back to this eventually. Whether it will ever regain the self-perpetuating impetus of WordCloud we’ll just have to wait and see.
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Yeah, interesting. They must have seen that the subscription-based model just wasn’t creating the necessary sense of community. Feel a bit torn now! Not sure I want to go back, especially now we have the Den. But if it gets going like the Word Cloud, I may well rejoin.
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I’ve joined and am enjoying the interesting new game: Spot the Denizen!
Some are easy, others you just wonder ” is that……?”
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Interesting. I’ve joined but I can’t seem to confirm my email without getting “ERROR OCCURRED, PLEASE TRY TO LOGIN TO YOUR ACCOUNT AND RESEND VERIFICATION EMAIL.” in reply … Iwonder if I’m on a blacklist somewhere š
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