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Hilary replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 5 months ago
Thank you for the beta read offers. I’m not sure I’m ready yet, but I will keep you in mind, and return the offer. Swapsies!
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Elle replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 5 months ago
@Hilary – I know we talked about this before but I will say it again. That age comment from this agent is rubbish, plenty of authors have their debut later in life. I’m quite sure Kit de Waal was over 50 when she published My Name is Leon.
There are still plenty of agents out there to submit to and the number of full request you’ve received shows…[Read more]
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Hilary replied to the topic Monthly competition – February 2020 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 5 months ago
Congratulations, John! Well done to all – and thanks to Libby for the comp and the perceptive comments.
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Hilary replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 5 months ago
And thank you for your comments too, Mad Iguana.
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Hilary replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 5 months ago
Debi thank you for this. Yes, I do think you’re right about the agent giving her time and it’s true that my disappointment is down to my expectations and hopes more than anything else. As I say, she was perfectly ‘nice’ and of course her prime motivation is going to be can she sell it. But in the meeting, I felt her doubt about this came across…[Read more]
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John S Alty replied to the topic Monthly competition – February 2020 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 5 months ago
Thank you Raine. Yes it turned out to be a pretty cunning ploy.
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Sandra started the topic Especially recommended books in the forum Blogs 6 years, 5 months ago
Yes, there’s a load of ‘How-to’books out there, and how useful they are depends very much upon the user, but I thought there might be a place to list not every book we use, but the most useful.
To start, and more specifically for crime writers, I can thoroughly recommend ‘The real CSI’ by Kate Bendelow. Kate did a workshop at the ‘Crime &…[Read more]
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John S Alty started the topic March competition in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 5 months ago
Well, I think the subject is obvious this month – Spring. Interpret it any way you want in under 400 words. I know you’ll all be brilliant. Good luck!
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Sandra replied to the topic Monthly competition – February 2020 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 5 months ago
Well done John, and thank you Libby for a competition which led to so many brilliant stories – what richness!
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John S Alty replied to the topic Monthly competition – February 2020 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 5 months ago
Wow, thanks Libby! Well done to the other participants. I’ll think up some devilishly difficult competition for March and post later tomorrow.
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Hilary replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 5 months ago
Thank you everyone for your solidarity and kind comments about my writing, and for the encouragement to realise all the positives in this tale as well. And, @janette, for someone not to reply properly having suggested revisions – that is, indeed, unprofessional.
I am taking a step back from that experience and that novel, and working on the…[Read more]
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KazG replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 5 months ago
I’m astounded by all these badly behaved agents, because bad behaviour it is. It’s just rude, and they must understand how galling it is for an author to get their hopes up needlessly – or maybe they don’t. And as for not replying after requesting a full – well, it’s appalling. @janette your experience in particular has me fuming. How can he gush…[Read more]
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Athelstone replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 5 months ago
Incidentally, as this year I am coasting towards the age where I am ‘losing my hair’, and wondering whether I will be locked out at quarter to three (never mind getting a bottle of wine for my birthday or a Valentine’s card), I suppose I should resign myself to joining that league of elderly no-hopers that includes Hilary Mantel, Philip Pullman…[Read more]
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 6 months ago
Oh Hilary and Janette, I feel for you. Somehow it’s much harder when your hopes have been raised. I guess they’ve got further to fall.
@Janette. I understand that agents receive zillions of submissions everyday and can’t respond personally to each one but I do think, when they’ve requested a full or asked for edits to be made, they could at leas…[Read more]
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Sandra replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 6 months ago
Hilary, as an aside, the Bookoture girl did say she had a 96 year-old on her list for whom she had so far published some 23 ‘cosy crime’ novels. ‘One every couple of weeks’ she said.
Feedback today from those who did pitch to her said she refused most straight off. Made suggestions to make more acceptable to one and I now of another who pitched…[Read more]
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Hilary replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 6 months ago
To be fair, she didn’t say it was about representation. I just thought/hoped it would be. She said it was to discuss suggested revisions and how we might work together. As well as the thing about commercial/literary, there were so many aspects of the book that she thought didn’t work, I even asked her why she had wanted to meet me and she said…[Read more]
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Athelstone replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 6 months ago
I sort of worry a bit when I see agents pushing writers this way. In fact, my hackles start to hack or rise or whatever they’d do if I had them. Book Club fiction is Literary Fiction that agents reckon they should be able to sell better than average. As for this splitting of work into ever more categories as though this is some kind of scientific…[Read more]
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Hilary replied to the topic Monthly competition – February 2020 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 6 months ago
Rachel agreed, in the end, to a bath.
The water was hot. There were bubbles. The scent made her think of purple.
She closed her eyes. Lowered herself, let her hands float, slid down until her head was under water. She let the breath go out of her and waited. Slowly, she pushed herself back up. Water dripped from her face, her hair. Steam…[Read more]
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Hilary started the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 6 months ago
I’ve been thinking of posting something about this for a while, and have been prompted to do so by Sandra’s link to the Bookouture post about commercial fiction.
I began submitting my novel to agents in July last year. I had my first full request the next day, even though it was the weekend, so you can imagine my excitement. I received two more…[Read more]
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Sorry – the spreadtheword post with bookouture editors.
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Your post has made me rage! Well done on getting all those requests for the full. But why on God’s green earth would an agent drag you all the way to London for a chat, without first making it clear that she was not going to represent you. You may have wanted to take advantage of the rare opportunity for a face to face anyway, but could she not…[Read more]
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Thanks for your rage! It was an expensive journey, too. Not off peak so I could not even use my SENIOR railcard!!
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To be fair, she did say the meeting was to discuss suggested revisions and talk about how we might work together.
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Gosh @hilary, I am raging on your behalf too! This all sounds so demoralising, and I do admire your fortitude in picking yourself up and starting a new book. I hope you’ll focus on the fact that you had lots of requests for a full ms – even on a weekend!! – and take Raine’s advice and submit again. As you rightly say, many agents have book club…[Read more]
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Sandra posted an update 6 years, 6 months ago
Useful definition of ‘commercial fiction’ from Bookouture : https://www.spreadtheword.org.uk/unpicking-commercial-fiction-with-bookoutures-editors/?fbclid=IwAR2FfqSMY8Ms3zZe4lrExLhphK9X5Xab6lLU330ZQG5-dDxpRkbxYeodKVM
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Thanks, Sandra. As you say, this is useful.
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Very clear!
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Yes, this was interesting, especially, to me, the mention of book club fiction. I can feel a blog coming on…
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But also worth noting, Karen Sullivan of Orenda Books specifically states she likes books that cross genres; said so two years ago and repeated it Tuesday night.
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