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  • Shall I compare thee to a summer day?  

    The sons of Scathios are not many, but we exist, hiding in plain sight, yet cautious as stealthy shadows flickering through time.

    The oracle of Ages states ‘everything is subject to the passing of time, even that which is immortal’ and yes things around me did transform and I perceived them in their tran…[Read more]

  • I had been thinking of writing a piece about the regular assembly of early morning imbibers near the local pier. My idea was to call it The Breakfast Club, but in deference to the competition it is as requested. Note that the language at these events is often rough. I have tamed it a bit but there may be a trace…

    Shall I compare thee to a…[Read more]

  • Reminder! The monthly competition closes at midnight on Saturday, 31st August.

    Anyone can enter.

    Here’s the task:

    Our summer weather so far has been an ever-changing experience, almost one extreme to another. For the August comp please write a story about changeability titled ‘Shall I compare thee to a summer’s day?’ Thee can refer to a perso…[Read more]

  • Probably a bit aslant of what you were hoping for Libby, but is the idea that stuck

    ‘Shall I compare thee to a summer’s day?’

     

    I guess you had to’ve been there, because even now,  months later, just thinking about it makes me smile. It was the usual semi-dormant Friday afternoon meeting, Anton, our boss, wanting us to brain-storm some sort of…[Read more]

  • Athelstone posted an update 1 year, 7 months ago

    I’d be grateful for some thoughts. I read a section from my WIP at a writers’ meeting and somebody commented on the name I chose for a character aged around 40. I named the character Carol. She said that this seemed rather an odd name for somebody of that age and that if you see “Carol” you immediately assume somebody older. This hadn’t occurred…[Read more]

    • As far as I’m concerned the answers to your questions are ‘No’ and ‘No.’ I had a similar experiance about ten years ago when my daughter suggested that Angela was an unlikely name for a twenty-year-old, but the character had been with me in some shape or form for years and I couldn’t imagine her being anything else, so i stuck with it. And lo and…[Read more]

      • I’ve realised for a while that I’ll need to change the name of one character. I introduced her simply for a physical look and mannerisms that I could understand and write about with some realism. But the name belongs to a real person and I’m not the only one who knows her. So…

        But the other name? Is my critic opinionated? I couldn’t possibly…[Read more]

    • I don’t remember anyone called Carol in the 80s and my younger sister did not have any friends called Carol that I know of. However, I do not associate the name with any particular generation in the way that I would, say, Mabel or Enid or Hilda.

      • I knew a couple of Carols at work, but I think they were both probably born in the 60s. I also know a Carol (as I said up there) who’s in her early 40s now, so would be around the age of my character. I suspect that the person who was so definite on associating the name with an era was extra sensitive to it because she was a Carol herself. I’ve…[Read more]

        • I’m late to the conversation but I think it’s fine to have a character with an out-of-era name. The only problem I could see with a story is if all the names were old-fashioned or unusual in some way without the author giving any explanation.
          Seeing Carol and Angela now, I’m struck how pretty these names are. When they were in commoner currency I…[Read more]

          • As a matter of interest (or not…) my character isn’t usually referred to as Angela. It’s part of an authorial joke. I gave her that name so that she could have the nickname Jelly, with the excuse that that was how she said her name when she was learning to talk and it stuck. The girl is a head-turner, and ‘jellyroll’ (as in Jellyroll Morton,…[Read more]

        • I’d better not describe the original Teabreak to you as that might break something. Personally I can’t see anything wrong with Carol for the 80s, although I might add an “e” to the end (Carole). I’d go with what you’re comfortable writing with – you can always do a global change when finished if you really want. In other news I know at least one…[Read more]

    • Well, thanks for the replies. She stays as Carol, with a suitable comment or two to settle her age. I’ve given this some more thought. In the novel her age is quite clear anyway because this and her appearance are described before Teabreak gets to know her. That’s one of the possible disadvantages of offering critique (especially “definitive”…[Read more]

  • Thanks, Richard! This becomes quite compulsive doesn’t it, a new thread of literature (new to me anyway) to follow and think about.

    I’m off now for a few days and will read your post fully when I return.

  • I’m glad you copied this, Libby, because you saved me the trouble. Your comments should definitely be an integral part of this thread. And I’m glad, too, that the poem seems to have had much the same effect on you as it had on me.

    There’s more, much more, than ‘yet another translation.’ There’s a page with over forty, ranging from Catullus’ Latin…[Read more]

  • I replied in a comments box earlier where it may get lost – so I’ve copied my comment here.

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    Definitely good going, Richard. Thank you for this post.

    Of these various translations I prefer the ones with shorter lines. They feel more immediate, less worked. That seems to be the magic of Sappho’s lines – the way they leap almost three mil…[Read more]

  • Rather annoyingly, shortly after posting this I came upon another translation. Annoyingly, because its publication on a page headed ‘The Center for Hellenic Studies,’ its juxtaposition with the Greek, and most of all the clumsiness of its English suggest to me that it is the closest to a word-for-word rendition of Sappho’s original that I’ve yet…[Read more]

  • I’m looking forward to reading this, Richard. I became more aware of Sappho when I read Selby Wynn Schwartz’s novel After Sappho, which I enjoyed a lot. Before that I’d hardly known who Sappho was.

  • Great blog, Richard. Sadly I have very little internet right now. Will get back asap. Also, yikes! One of the updates has broken my menus (at least in mobile mode).

  • Something a bit different this time: a voice speaking from the shadows of two-and-a-half millennia and more ago, in words so timeless and universal they might have been written yesterday.

    It was a couple of years ago that I stumbled across this piece on the Internet, and I don’t remember what led me to it. But I do have a vivid memory of my…[Read more]

    • Definitely good going, Richard. Thank you for this post.

      Of these various translations I prefer the ones with shorter lines. They feel more immediate, less worked. That seems to be the magic of Sappho’s lines – the way they leap almost three millennia with apparent simplicity to show that little has changed. It’s a cliche to say that, I know, but…[Read more]

  • RichardB posted an update 1 year, 7 months ago

    Re Sandra’s comment from five days ago about it being a shame more Denizens can’t find the time to enter the monthly comp, sorry, but with me it’s more lack of inspiration rather than lack of time. Maybe I should try a bit harder, but in the meantime , and maybe to make up for it, one of my notorious blogs is on the way. Watch this space.

  • Not sure it meets the brief and it’s a bit on the short side, but it’s where the fancy took me, so…

    Shall I compare thee to a summer’s day?

    Shall I compare thee to a summer’s day? Nay. Thrice nay, unless that day be cold and dreich.

    Then shall I liken thee to the first rose of summer? Nay, again, save that bloom be not perfect and proud but…[Read more]

  • Athelstone posted an update 1 year, 8 months ago

    Apologies to anybody who had a problem logging in to the Den in the last couple of days. Our hosting company jumped the gun (by a day or so) and turned off SSL (Secure Socket Layer which provides us with some of our site security) prior to the bill falling due.

  • Well done Libby! And well done to Sandra, too. Made me smile!

    I didn’t read the other entries until after I’d posted mine, but I have to say 1) I was struck by the way we all had some common themes 2) I thought at once that Libby’s piece was a bit special.

    Thanks for the competition, Terrie.

     

  • Our summer weather so far has been an ever-changing experience, almost one extreme to another. For the August comp please write a story about changeability titled ‘Shall I compare thee to a summer’s day?’ Thee can refer to a person, animal or something inanimate. Max 500 words, deadline midnight on 31<sup>st</sup> August.

  • Thank you, Terrie! This is lovely surprise, and I’m pleased you liked my story.

    I really enjoyed Sandra’s and Ath’s stories too. So lifelike. Thank you both of you for being such excellent competitors.

  • Congratulations Libby – what an interesting exercise, one I’d like to attempt sometime and which you managed so smoothly. Thanks to Ath for another entertaining  Teabreak episode. And to Terrie for both the challenge and the summing up. The being stretched into a maybe new direction is so good for my writing, shame more Denizens can’t find time to enter.

  • Only three entries but what a selection!

    All expertly written and cleverly presented is evidence that Den of Writers contains a wealth of experienced and skilled writers.

     

    1. Wow Libby what a wonderfully executed piece of verb-less writing; plus a well-crafted opening sentence as well.

    Richly descriptive but without verbs, the shorter…[Read more]

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