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  • JaneShuff replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 4 years, 9 months ago

    Wow. So so much interesting and useful stuff, @Libby ! It would make a brilliant checklist for anyone. It will take me a bit of time to assimilate it all. I will say though, with my ‘Being betaread’ hat on, that I wouldn’t expect a beta reader of a whole novel to cover all that for me in one go if anyone is feeling a bit daunted.

    @athelstone Why…[Read more]

  • Libby replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 4 years, 9 months ago

    Beta reading other people’s writing has taught me all sorts of things. I wouldn’t want to be without it. It’s satisfying too, that link with someone else’s thought processes and their ambitions for their work.

    I can come back with my experiences of being beta read but in the meantime, as Jane says: ‘my experience of the book as a reader.’

    Y…[Read more]

  • Thanks for the topic. May I add that I’m a terrible beta reader. I would like to be more useful and hope to pick up some tips if this discussion develops and hopefully turns into something more.

  • Here’s a separate topic for a discussion about Beta Reading. Please feel free to contribute to the discussion both on your experiences of having your work beta read and on beta reading other people’s book.

    I’ll kick it off by repeating that Beta Reading has taught me a lot. I approach it from my experience of the book as a reader. Noting down my…[Read more]

  • RichardB replied to the topic "I write like" in the forum Coffee Shop 4 years, 9 months ago

    Yes, in my first passage my MC was being smitten at his first sight of a young lady, and in the second someone was getting blasted with a shotgun. Hmm, content…

  • JaneShuff replied to the topic "I write like" in the forum Coffee Shop 4 years, 9 months ago

    James Joyce!

  • JaneShuff replied to the topic "I write like" in the forum Coffee Shop 4 years, 9 months ago

    I’ll try with a more lyrical section… watch this space.

  • JaneShuff replied to the topic "I write like" in the forum Coffee Shop 4 years, 9 months ago

    Ha ha! I write like Stephen King! I think Libby is right though and the program looks at content mostly as this was a particularly horror full section!

  • Libby replied to the topic "I write like" in the forum Coffee Shop 4 years, 9 months ago

    My theory, Richard, is that the program looks at content rather than style. I leave you to decide if that idea fits with your novel! Possibly the program throws POV into the mix.

    I suppose Joyce and Brown both spent some time in Paris…

  • RichardB replied to the topic "I write like" in the forum Coffee Shop 4 years, 9 months ago

    Now there’s interesting, as we say in Wales. Based on two short extracts from the last novel I wrote, I write either like James Joyce or (wait for it) Dan Brown. Not much difference…

  • Libby started the topic "I write like" in the forum Coffee Shop 4 years, 9 months ago

    For a bit of fun you can discover who you write like https://iwl.me/
    So far I’ve been linked with Jane Austen and Lewis Carroll. Today, for a piece mentioning air-raid sirens, I’m the new Chuck Palahniuk 😉

  • Knicks replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 4 years, 9 months ago

    I am all for the idle chatter and discussions on beta reading as well. I think that is another wonderful pro of what we have here, along with the comps. The ability to get quality critique on the works we want and hope to publish. It’s like the second, necessary step on the road to being a writer. You do the work and write the thing, and then you…[Read more]

  • Athelstone replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 4 years, 9 months ago

    What I meant was that we can post images now, providing they are online somewhere. That said, like many things on the Den, it’s a bit hit and miss whether it works.

    roses grow on you

    • A bunch of roses always brings a smile, especially when the ones in our garden are rain battered and looking about as depressed as a rose can.

  • Libby replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 4 years, 9 months ago

    PS That should be: I could definitely, not probably, learn a lot from other beta readers 🙂 At the moment I do beta reading in a particular way and that’s probably not the best way possible or at any rate not for all authors. Expanding my ideas would be a good thing.

  • Libby replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 4 years, 9 months ago

    A discussion on beta reading sounds a good idea. I could probably learn a lot from the way other people approach beta reads.

    I don’t think I’d want to offer my beta reading services to a wider public, as it were. I’m happy to do it for members here and for people who pop up on the site asking for a reader from whoever is available. I generally…[Read more]

  • Libby replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 4 years, 9 months ago

    @Bella I hope the writing mojo comes back. And the reading and sax playing. These big events like Covid can really knock the oomph out of all sorts of things.

  • Athelstone replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 4 years, 9 months ago

    Hi – that was a reply to Sandra, just for avoidance of confusion. Yes, there are several very appealing forums available, including Discourse (and I must say as a longtime repairer, I like your forum and the topic). That said, with Discourse, we would need a VPS or similar non-shared server arrangement*, unlike a traditional web-host, so the…[Read more]

  • JaneShuff replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 4 years, 9 months ago

    Random comments:

    Yes to Beta Reading, but, time permitting, I’ve always been a keen beta reader. I honestly think the beta reader learns as much from the process as the writer, but I’m not keen on the financial aspect. I know Thea posted a request for beta readers recently. Did anyone respond @thea ?
    And on that subject, I’d welcome a discussion…[Read more]

    • Hi @janeshuff, the only response to my beta reading request was your kind message explaining that you aren’t able to help at present. After a month or so, I deleted the request.
      I agree that it would be beneficial to have a discussion about beta reading. As you said, it’s a good learning process for both reader and writer. I guess the first thing…[Read more]

  • Bella replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 4 years, 9 months ago

    Also – apologies of lack of participation. The Covid situation has totally mucked up my mojo. I’ve not written a word, stopped playing my (relatively new) sax, hardly even read a thing blah blah blah. It is what it is. I have developed an obsession with weightlifting, so haven’t been entirely idle! But I’m starting to feel the odd twinges of…[Read more]

  • Bella replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 4 years, 9 months ago

    I’ve long thought that people would bite your arm off for a decent beta reading service.

    I flung out an idea on Jericho Townhouse ages ago along the lines of: author pays £X to Jericho who assigns the MS to a selected beta reader from their pool. There is a standard rubric the beta reader must follow (timescale, topics covered, length of…[Read more]

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