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Elle replied to the topic Red (short story – 2,600 words) in the forum Critiques 7 years, 6 months ago
@StellaOlivetti – thank you for your feedback and please don’t feel back about nitpicking. I like nitpicking, I want nitpicking because that’s what’s going to help me improve on my story so all your comments are very helpful!
The main reason about the grandmother being Russian is a kind of nod at Neil Gaiman and American Gods and the idea that…[Read more]
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John S Alty replied to the topic Red (short story – 2,600 words) in the forum Critiques 7 years, 6 months ago
Hi L,
I think you could trim most of the paragraphs in the first half of the story, really. The Physics thing (tight pants) early on could go, you use this analogy later on anyway. Watching a film at the cinema, that paragraph could be less wordy I think.
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JaneShuff replied to the topic NaNoWriMo in the forum Coffee Shop 7 years, 6 months ago
Still missing three quarters of the story….
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Daedalus replied to the topic NaNoWriMo in the forum Coffee Shop 7 years, 6 months ago
Ah, yes. Planning. It’s going…um…
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Elle replied to the topic Red (short story – 2,600 words) in the forum Critiques 7 years, 6 months ago
@johnSAlty — thanks John for your feedback it’s all very useful. As a matter of interest any particular paragraphs you felt were overwritten?
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Athelstone replied to the topic NaNoWriMo in the forum Coffee Shop 7 years, 6 months ago
That’s the most important bit done.
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Some notes on Dara Marks' Transformational Arc in the forum Blogs 7 years, 6 months ago
Thank you for a very interesting read Daedalus. You have made me want to go and watch the film. I am
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Some notes on Dara Marks' Transformational Arc in the forum Blogs 7 years, 6 months ago
I absolutely agree with you Raine about not every character progressing through their arc in synchrony and entirety but nevertheless needing some sort of arc. I have only recently realised that this gives the relationships between characters energy and life as they shift according to where they are in their ‘journey’. It is a powerful tool.
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Daedalus replied to the topic Some notes on Dara Marks' Transformational Arc in the forum Blogs 7 years, 6 months ago
Thanks Raine. I’ve seen the film numerous times over the years (the first being as a very small child) and have got different things from it each time. One reading would definitely be a clash between rival alpha males. And it’s definitely in the ‘high adventure’ tradition, but I do think there’s more to it than that. Not least as ultimatel…[Read more]
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John S Alty replied to the topic Red (short story – 2,600 words) in the forum Critiques 7 years, 6 months ago
I think “Spotting an opening…” needs a new para. The lipstick thing is a little over complicated, I think you could shorten it without losing anything.
The “pills like skittles” analogy doesn’t work for me.
“Small-to-medium-time” seems a cop-out, he’s a small-time crook, I think.
“Anticipated to sit..” should be “anticipated sitting”.I’d take…[Read more]
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Raine replied to the topic NaNoWriMo in the forum Coffee Shop 7 years, 6 months ago
Hows the planning going, NaNo Denizens?? I have a title. That’s good, right?
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Raine replied to the topic Some notes on Dara Marks' Transformational Arc in the forum Blogs 7 years, 6 months ago
Sorry @daedalus – for some reason your latest didn’t appear till after I’d posted the above. Really interesting breakdown there, I’d seen the film, and it came across to me (many moons ago, I admit) as extremely captivating and clever but essentially typical alpha-male adventure type thing. But no! PErhaps I should watch it again to pick up on all…[Read more]
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Raine replied to the topic Some notes on Dara Marks' Transformational Arc in the forum Blogs 7 years, 6 months ago
I think I do a bit of both tbh. I do plot out the character arcs at the start, but things change as I write (as they do, the wee buggers), so by the end I need to do it all again for my major edit. That’s when Julie Cohen’s post-it notes come into play! I’m basically a walking advert for Julie and Craig.
@daedalus re the tragic/heroic thing – it…[Read more]
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Daedalus replied to the topic Some notes on Dara Marks' Transformational Arc in the forum Blogs 7 years, 6 months ago
I was watching the film The Flight of the Phoenix earlier today, and this ‘arc’ kept occuring to me, so for the sake of curiosity I decided to have a look to see if it fit this structure, and if so, how. It’s a bit of an interesting case as it’s an ensemble piece with multiple ‘main’ characters, each with their own arc. I’ll consider it for the…[Read more]
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Philippa East replied to the topic Some notes on Dara Marks' Transformational Arc in the forum Blogs 7 years, 6 months ago
@janeshuff, that’s a great way of putting it. Yes, “the broad sweeps” and then refining in the edits.
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Some notes on Dara Marks' Transformational Arc in the forum Blogs 7 years, 6 months ago
I too tend not too worry too much about the overall structure when I’m actually in the thick of writing a first draft but I have found that reading the various books about structure has helped me be aware of the broad sweeps of the shape of a story as I’m thinking it out.
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Debi Alper posted an update 7 years, 6 months ago
Someone on the current self-edit course has just posted this link about creating suspense and I thought I’d share it here: http://www.writersdigest.com/online-editor/6-secrets-to-creating-and-sustaining-suspense
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Elle replied to the topic Red (short story – 2,600 words) in the forum Critiques 7 years, 6 months ago
Thanks you both for your feedback.
@squidge — thanks for mentioning those sentences tripped you. I am sometimes unsure when a sentence makes me trip if it’s because it is or just because I am not used to it as English is not my first language.
@jonathan — thanks for spotting that typo, indeed it should be “lager” and not “larger”.
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Daedalus replied to the topic Some notes on Dara Marks' Transformational Arc in the forum Blogs 7 years, 6 months ago
Yeah, I tend to consider matters of formal structure far more in the edit than in the initial draft
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