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The JW self-edit course, Ath? Yes. I think even a writer as good as you would find it worthwhile. D’you want to check the syllabus first to make sure you don’t know it all already? I can supply basic details, assuming it hasn’t changed much in the past three years.
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Yes!! Even though you know what you’re doing, there are elements of it that are still useful. I think there will be lots you already know, but in reading others’ work and particularly seeing Debi and Emma’s comments (as well as fellow readers’) is like mini-critique course in itself.
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Ta to you both for saying some nice things…but I know I need some pushing and shoving and just straight educating. Here’s hoping the January course is a classic!
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Best l thing I got out of it was the friendship of a core of valuable fellow-attendees; we still regularly meet, though not as often as desired and have done since January 2014.
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YES! I think this course is so good that it will help almost anyone. I would do it again in a flash. And the one to one attention is worth the price alone!
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Definitely not as often as desired! But agreed – the course was great, but the group of friends is greaterer.
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Hell, yes – to all of that.
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All signed up.
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Good luck!! I kind of assumed you’d done it already! Is January the course @johnt3 is also signed up on (for his second time around)?
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No, I’ve just started. It’s a promising and very varied bunch of writers. Good luck, Athelstone, you’ll enjoy it. PS I’d forgotten how hard the first exercise is!
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Nope, never done it, although I’ve been on various workshops etc. that touch on some of the modules. I have a feeling it will be a very different thing to be engaged on my own work and working with a group. When I looked the Sept one was full, but I wanted another few months to write some more crap (as Julie C puts it) before starting anyway. All good.
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Yay! Starting when?
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21 January. Really looking forward to it
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Athelstone posted an update 6 years, 7 months ago
Joining and choosing, joining and choosing! A brief reminder that there are fewer than 10 days to join “Songs of Innocence & Experience”.
We now have 26 members and 19 choices.
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26 and 20 🙂
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26 and 21 🙂
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Seagreen replied to the topic National Creative Writing Industry Day in the forum Competitions, Open calls and Writing Opportunities 6 years, 7 months ago
Booked!
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Seagreen replied to the topic Flash fiction success in the forum Podium 6 years, 7 months ago
Excellent news! Congratulations! 🙂
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Seagreen replied to the topic September 2019 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 7 months ago
DREAM WEAVER (267 WORDS INCLUDING TITLE)
In my dreams I’m strong and fearless. My sword is sharp and silver, but I won’t stab you if I don’t have to: I’ll give you the chance to surrender and walk away.
But only one chance, mind.
In my dreams, there are green trees that smell of apples and yellow roses that fill the garden with sunshine. Vampire…[Read more] -
Athelstone posted an update 6 years, 7 months ago
Calling all writers – this means you! There are 3 weeks left until the group “Songs of Innocence and Experience” becomes private and is closed to new members. This annual short story event has led to winning National Competition entries and inspired novels. It can draw out the best in you and at the very least is tremendous fun. To join, head…[Read more]
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Athelstone posted an update in the group
Songs of Innocence and Experience 6 years, 7 months agoSome intriguing choices being made. I hope that expectations are not knocked too far off kilter when the theme and meaning of the choices is revealed. I’m sure that kind, clever, wise, reliable and wholly impartial Jules will make my choices quite perfectly.
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You’re not trying to butter me up there at all, are you, Ath?
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Simply speaking the truth – as I learned to at my mother’s knee…
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Athelstone replied to the topic Monthly comp – August in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 8 months ago
You see, what Mrs High and Mighty Rachel Jacobs doesn’t realise is that every time her big shiny car overlaps my drive, I go and walk by it – and I knock her door mirror flat. Of course, it’s an expensive mirror with an expensive motor, and one day my efforts will make that motor fail. Sometimes I brush against the side, just casually. And if I…[Read more]
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Athelstone posted an update 6 years, 8 months ago
Songs of Innocence and Experience
OK. New Short Story Challenge. SEE THE NEW GROUP FOR DETAILS.
As Joey Ramone once remarked, “Hey Ho Let’s Go”
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Athelstone posted an update 6 years, 8 months ago
My head says NO, but against this better judgement I have decided to run another winter short story challenge. Autumn seems to have arrived early in this corner of Europe with cold wind and rain, alternating with fickle sunshine. Even Eratigena atrica has begun its amorous invasion of my home a few weeks ahead of schedule, so to take my mind off…[Read more]
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Fab, Ath. These are always so inspiring. 🙂
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Brilliant, Ath. I was just about to message you and ask if you were running a winter comp this year 😁
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Hooray!!! Good on you Ath. And a kick up the bum to me to clear the decks of some current stuff.
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Is that the time already? I still haven’t finished the last one.
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Didn’t manage the last one. Must try harder. Good for you, Ath.
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Great news and thanks Ath
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Fabulous news – love the name. All sorts of possibilities springing to mind there… Thanks, Ath x
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I promise to try harder for this one. The last lies somewhere among other penned ideas, in one of my jotters.
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This is great but good Lord where has this year gone?
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I ate it
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Can I offer you a blackberry tart instead? I need some of the year that’s left
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Make it crumble. With custard
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Can I have a bit of both, please? Oh, and yes, custard definitely.
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Athelstone posted an update 6 years, 8 months ago
Just sailing out of Cherbourg. Bit sad really. Probably last visit as an EU citizen. For a while anyway.
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Athelstone replied to the topic Monthly comp – August in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 8 months ago
Just about to lose my data connection before surrendering to the joys of wifi at sea. No inspiration here yet. The pain chocolat is good though.
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Athelstone replied to the topic From Bloom to Blizzard in the forum Podium 6 years, 8 months ago
Absolutely stunning story – one of my favourites. Congratulations! Really well deserved.
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Seagreen replied to the topic Monthly comp – July 2019 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 8 months ago
Congratulations, Kate! And nice job, Sandra 🙂
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Athelstone replied to the topic Monthly comp – July 2019 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 8 months ago
Really enjoyed this one and it certainly got the words flowing. Congratulations to Kate and to the honourable mentionees! And very well done Sandra.
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Athelstone posted an update 6 years, 9 months ago
Feeling a bit hacked-off. Just heard that my number one choice of agent to meet at York is no longer going to be there. To be honest, she seemed like such a good fit for my writing that she was a large part of my decision to go this year. My number two choice is a perfectly nice and doubtless excellent agent, but seems interested in rather more…[Read more]
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Sorry to hear this, Ath. Afraid I don’t know anything about Hal Duncan. I suppose that if you submit your MS to the agent at some later date, you can tell them you’d applied to meet them at York and that would catch their attention favourably.
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Hal Duncan? Think he’s the Scottish bloke. Talks nineteen to the dozen in his sessions, but knows his stuff. Can come over a bit abrasive, and I can’t remember what he writes himself. I have a feeling it’s a bit quirky, so you might be OK with him for your non-genre stuff…?
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Yep, just had a look at his website and it is the chap I remember. His how to write a sentence session was brilliant.
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I had a session with Hal Duncan 2/3 years back. Not easy because he knew nothing about my genre. While his sessions were hi-speed and he promised notes (because taking them was impossible), they never materialised. I can’t find my feed-back sheet but though what little he did say was useful.
Bummer though, big time, for you.
My review of Vellum…[Read more]
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That is frustrating, Athers, especially as your other options are now limited and less appealing. I did a sentence structure workshop with Hal Duncan at York years ago. I’m afraid to say I got bored because he was being too methodical (my flaw probably, not his), but that’s not to say he wouldn’t be a good fit as a Book Doctor. Looking at his w…[Read more]
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Heyoop. Just seen I’ve been name-checked here. I do check the Den regularly but missed this. Sounds like you’ve sorted something out, At hers. Bummer though. Hope you’re not regretting coming to York. I’ll be looking forward to seeing you there.
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Ah well, thanks all – just letting off steam. The chance to actually get read by an agent and then meet them is very different from submitting into the dark and if things go wrong it shouldn’t be just a logistical exercise to ‘fix something up’ for the unlucky delegate. I’ve seen similar things happen in previous years and the outcome is never…[Read more]
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And the decision I made is to have a chat with a book doctor who I trust to tell me if I’m being boring, or brilliant, engaging or execrable. I’ve done a bit of research (which is a posh spin on ‘checked the internet’) about Hal Duncan. Seems to be a very fine writer and all-round star, but I’ll stick with my choice.
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Oh no, Athers, I’d seen that one or two might have been cancelled and it sucks that one was ‘the one’ of yours. I haven’t heard anything, so presume mine are okay, but that doesn’t help you. Nor does having to pick from the remaining places available so late in the day. I really hope you get something out of coming to York and as mentioned above,…[Read more]
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Look forward to that, Janette!
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The same thing happened to me, Ath. The replacement agent I’ve found I don’t know at all, but she looks quite interesting.
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I had something of a false start with my WIP. After getting 40K plus into it, I’ve restarted with a new MC (wildly different character) and a change from past to present tense. The net result is that I’m way behind where I intended to be for York. I’ve decided that if I can’t get an agent who’s a good match then I’ll try a book doctor.
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I know all about changing tense, having changed a whole novel from first person present to third person past (and still not getting it published). One possibility at york is to go for an editor. I had a brilliant session with a commissioning editor: I didn’t expect or get a deal, but she helped me pick out underlying themes in the book. One of the…[Read more]
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