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  • Sandra replied to the topic Influences in the forum Blogs 2 years, 6 months ago

    I’m now almost halfway through Salter’s ‘Collected Stories’ and can understand how the short, sharp sentences make an impact, but I find most of his characters, male and female, seem a bit self-obsessed, and, for me, there is over-much description (as is often the case with American literature.) At least they are readable! Some time since I read…[Read more]

  • Athelstone replied to the topic Influences in the forum Blogs 2 years, 6 months ago

    Well, these last few posts sent me off on a chase, which I shall spare you the detail of. I have never read anything by Salter, but probably shall, now. For what it’s worth, I emerged from my chase with a greater respect for George Orwell (though perhaps not his earlier novels) and a suspicion that Will Self may have confused writing literature…[Read more]

  • Daedalus replied to the topic Influences in the forum Blogs 2 years, 6 months ago

    I think for me Salter stands out because the spareness is also lyrical. I find many ‘less is more’ authors to be a bit dull, but his prose manages to be as poetic as it is simple

  • Libby replied to the topic Influences in the forum Blogs 2 years, 6 months ago

    Yes, Salter’s detachment. Is that what makes his writing interesting? I think it may be – for me anyway.

    John, I wouldn’t press Salter on you, or anyone, but his prose is an example of American spareness if you ever want to investigate same.

  • John T replied to the topic Influences in the forum Blogs 2 years, 6 months ago

    Salter is an author I’ve never read. 90% of my favourite                                                                                                                                                   contemporary authors are women, but that may be as much about genre as gender. I read very few thrillers or crime novels, and only occasional l…[Read more]

  • Daedalus replied to the topic Influences in the forum Blogs 2 years, 6 months ago

    Salter is very much a writer of men. I was somewhat horrified by his treatment of women in All There Is (although there’s always a detachment to his writing that means it’s never entirely clear who his sympathies lie with). I find his earlier work rather tighter.

  • Libby replied to the topic Influences in the forum Blogs 2 years, 6 months ago

    @sandra

    The short stories are very good, Sandra. I liked a Sport and a Pastime but it can feel dated even though the writing was, for me, compelling. Salter can fall into the trap of his generation. Some of his writing about women can seem as if he didn’t ask the women around him how they thought and felt. On the other hand he’s also a very…[Read more]

  • Libby replied to the topic Influences in the forum Blogs 2 years, 6 months ago

    I posted too soon. My comment may look as though I’m suggesting you don’t, Daeds, which I certainly didn’t mean! Your study of Salter brings a clarity and atmosphere to your writing which I’m sure it would have anyway. It’s interesting to think, in this influences process, how much we’re drawn to authors who provoke writerly neurones that we…[Read more]

  • Sandra replied to the topic Influences in the forum Blogs 2 years, 6 months ago

    @ Daeds and Libby,

    re James Salter, 2/3 years ago II read and was impressed by a short story featured in a newspaper. Eagerly borrowed ‘A sport and a pastime’ from the library and found it  heavy-going. Couple of months ago I bought his ‘Collected Stories, but have yet to begin it, but hope to do so with an eye to his style..

  • Libby replied to the topic Influences in the forum Blogs 2 years, 6 months ago

    James Salter has (had) a wonderful style.

  • Daedalus replied to the topic Influences in the forum Blogs 2 years, 6 months ago

    Sandra, interesting you say that about unconscious influence from books you read years ago. I’m generally reluctant to specify my influences because I’m certain that I don’t know who all of them are. On more than one occasion I’ve reread something I read in my youth but had only the haziest memory of. And, to my horror, encountered somethi…[Read more]

  • Athelstone replied to the topic Influences in the forum Blogs 2 years, 6 months ago

    I wrote a short story with an MC lacking almost all redeeming qualities. It didn’t go down too well, although I quite enjoyed writing it. Patricia Highsmith’s writing is wonderful. Tom Ripley is a work of genius.

    Also, hello stranger. How’s it going?

     

  • Daedalus posted an update 2 years, 6 months ago

    And don’t forget people, if you say anything mean about JK Rowling, you’ll get in her bad books. The detective ones.

  • Sandra posted an update 2 years, 6 months ago

    Version #4, snappier start, 6 characters, 682 words but not a clue what is going to be “done” to start anyone wondering “who?” I’ll be in Australia for four weeks – thank goodness the deadline is February.

  • I’m not at all sure I’ve fully adhered to the brief, but this scraping of possibilities from my current wip is  the best I can do, before I leave the country 😉

    Scene:

    Need for a wee had Lucy check the time. Half ten. She’d been lying in her bed for more than two hours. Not moved since she’d taken refuge. Since hearing the click of the stre…[Read more]

  • Oh, EXCELLENT idea Sea – 0nly problem now, which do I choose??

  • I’ve just started listening to Ken Follett on BBC Maestro, and this is (sort of) taken from a task he sets at the end of the section on developing ideas.

    Take a scene in a book (your own or someone else’s) where not a lot is happening. Find five ways to improve it e.g identify things that could go wrong, complicate matters or raise the sta…[Read more]

  • Seems OK, both in the ‘text’ option and the ‘visual’.

  • I’m testing!

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  • I love your story, Seagreen. Congratulations!

    Janette, Alex, Sandra – all great stories. Thanks for setting the competition, Squidge.

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