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Raine replied to the topic Lost my group! in the forum
Andrew Wille's DIY MA course 6 years, 2 months agoSorry – not been in for a couple of days. Is this still an issue for people (it’s not for me, but I’m the admin…)? I’ll change group to public then back to private and see if that sorts it – let me know.
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Kate replied to the topic Mid grade 1st chapter in the forum Critiques 6 years, 2 months ago
Thanks @KazG. Your thoughts on this are comforting. I was worried if I had to pull back and simplify more I might lose the voice, but I wanted to know if I needed to do a major edit on this aspect or not. I’ll stop worrying about it now.
But, as always, the feedback has been great at throwing up some other issues, so I shall get to work on Pix’s…[Read more]
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KazG replied to the topic Mid grade 1st chapter in the forum Critiques 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi @katemachon, just got to this. I love the voice! I do agree about paring down the descriptions, making them part of the action as much as possible. And yes, you need to give us a reason to be on Ariadne’s side – give us her motivations, what she wants, what she fears.
I would also warn against overthinking the whole positioning of it,…[Read more]
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Kate replied to the topic Mid grade 1st chapter in the forum Critiques 6 years, 2 months ago
I had a sticky scene that wasn’t working Squidge, and after some time away from it I reread and thought D’oh, of course she wouldn’t react like that. She’d be angry. It’s funny how the characters become real people in our heads.
Thanks for the heads up about Kingstone. I shall go take a look.
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Squidge replied to the topic Mid grade 1st chapter in the forum Critiques 6 years, 2 months ago
It’s still possible to get in close, even using third person. It’s a bit of a knack, to get into your character’s head in this way – I often find myself rewriting complete paras when editing, because by the end of the book I’m so familiar with my character I can tell how they’re going to react, what they’re feeling or thinking. It’s a weird place…[Read more]
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Kate replied to the topic Mid grade 1st chapter in the forum Critiques 6 years, 2 months ago
I did a bit of googling and everybody says something different. Apparently in 2014 there were more first person than third, so I guess it just varies.
I shall attempt to find more subtle ways of placing my characters, as you suggested. Thanks for all the help. I’ll keep it all in mind as I go in for the next round of edits.
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Seagreen replied to the topic Mid grade 1st chapter in the forum Critiques 6 years, 2 months ago
I should perhaps confess that my own novel is written in 1st person, and I have so far resisted the notion of changing it.
As for the Brownie Brigade Captain, if he were breathing down Ariadne’s neck or humming in her ear, or something that draws Ariadne’s attention to him, it would draw ours as a result, if that makes any sense.
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Woolleybeans replied to the topic Craft Seminar Class 3: Character 2 – Inner Lives in the forum
Andrew Wille's DIY MA course 6 years, 2 months agoSorry I went quiet – forgot I existed again. It happens.
Okay, I am going to set up the next class starting this coming Monday, so we have a few days to mentally prepare.
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Thanks WB!
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Thanks WB! And by the way the group has disappeared from view – I can only get into it by going to the Activity thread and clicking on something like this. Apparently I’m not the only one. Ath had a similar issue with a hidden private group and he says this:
“I searched through activity in my limited admin dashboard (top left where there’s a d…[Read more]
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IGNORE ME! Sorry @woolleybeans, I thought you were the Admin because you were organising the classes – I forgot it was Raine, who has now sorted it. Soz x
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Well, organising…kind of flaking out on. Whatevs.
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Kate replied to the topic Mid grade 1st chapter in the forum Critiques 6 years, 3 months ago
That’s a really good point Sea. I took a look at my MG books and they’re all third person! Thanks for the Jess Butterworth one – I shall take a look. I’ll also try and do some investigating into first/third. (And possibly have a cry over my keyboard at the thought of rewriting into third. :D)
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Seagreen replied to the topic Mid grade 1st chapter in the forum Critiques 6 years, 3 months ago
I wonder if this is the reason more MG books are written in 3rd person? When you write in 1st person, you don’t think like the character, you are the character, and I think that additional explanations will ultimately slow the pace.
I tried to find a MG book written in first person for comparison and all I could think of was Running on the Roof…[Read more]
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Kate replied to the topic Mid grade 1st chapter in the forum Critiques 6 years, 3 months ago
Thanks @seagreen, this is all great. I’ll have a think about the save the cat moment and ramp up the fear a bit as a few people have mentioned that. I’ll weed out some of the description as well.
Re the being in the character’s head, and the explanations like ‘standing next to me’, I think you’ve cut to the heart of my question re YA vs MG…[Read more]
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Athelstone replied to the topic Lost my group! in the forum
Andrew Wille's DIY MA course 6 years, 3 months agoYep, it’s vanished again. When I list “My Groups” the caption says 1 to 10 of 10 groups, but it only actually lists 8, i.e. the DIY MA and my Testing Text groups are hidden from me too.
The workaround seems to be to for the group admin to unhide the group – change its setting to a private group.
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Clicking on the link in the ‘replied to’ bit of the above does bring it back.
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And there’s another slightly awkward feature of WordPress/BBPress/BuddyPress whichever. I posted as a reply to a topic but you were able to reply to my post when it was shown as “Activity” rather than in the context of the Topic. So your reply isn’t included in replies to the Topic.
Confused of Worthing.
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But I’m now replying via the Topic. (Remember when they used to be chocolate bars, with nuts and caramel?)
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And your post of 11.22 isn’t here either.
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All good fun, isn’t it?
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Allegedly …
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And yes, you’re right. If you follow the link to the Topic then you’re taken back into the Group Forum. But this relies on having a post handy with a link in it. All it takes is for the group to go quiet for a few days and for the last thread to sink a bit down the Activities and it starts to get trickier.
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Athelstone replied to the topic Lost my group! in the forum
Andrew Wille's DIY MA course 6 years, 3 months agoI searched through activity in my limited admin dashboard (top left where there’s a dial thing) and found some test posts on my hidden forum. When I un-hid it (using “manage”) it popped back into existence and is listed under my groups. I’m just going to try hiding it again to see if it disappears for me as well.
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Seagreen replied to the topic Mid grade 1st chapter in the forum Critiques 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi Kate,
I don’t see a problem with the language either, to be honest, but (like Squidge) I did wonder about the amount of description at the start. It takes us out of the moment and lessens the impact of the question ‘How did I end up in this mess?’ if you see what I mean?
I have a few observations, obviously ignore anything that doesn’t work…[Read more]
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Hilary replied to the topic Lost my group! in the forum
Andrew Wille's DIY MA course 6 years, 3 months agoYes me too.
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KazG replied to the topic Lost my group! in the forum
Andrew Wille's DIY MA course 6 years, 3 months agoWell, its HIDDEN private groups anyway, it seems.
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KazG replied to the topic Lost my group! in the forum
Andrew Wille's DIY MA course 6 years, 3 months agoThe Den is eating its private groups! I wonder why…
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Athelstone replied to the topic Lost my group! in the forum
Andrew Wille's DIY MA course 6 years, 3 months agoYep – me too.
Also, I had a private hidden group to mess about with text formatting that seems to have disappeared.
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KazG started the topic Lost my group! in the forum
Andrew Wille's DIY MA course 6 years, 3 months agoHi fellow DIY-ers! I seem to have lost my group – it’s not showing up in my groups at all anymore. The only way I can get here is to look at my notifications and activity and get in that way. Is anyone else having this problem?
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Kate replied to the topic Mid grade 1st chapter in the forum Critiques 6 years, 3 months ago
Thanks @bella – it was fun to write.
Perfect @squidge, that’s great to know it’s about right. I was worrying it was a bit densely packed but maybe I just have to be careful of too heavy descriptions. I shall tweak as suggested.
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