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Sandra replied to the topic Help with setting in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
Two bits of advice ‘freed’ me up wrt location, because I usually start with somewhere I know then make adjustments as necessary. Reading a disclaimer along the lines of “geographical liberties have been taken” I much appreciated.
Also, Eimear McBride said when she wrote of Camden, she did it from a 5 year old memory of the place and never…[Read more] -
RichardB replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
I had a problem like this in my last effort, and it cost me more sweat than anything else in that story. It was all the harder because it was a husband beating up his wife. I really didn’t want to go there and tried everything to skate round it, but the plot demanded that I meet it head-on. In the end I did almost exactly what Jonathan suggests: I…[Read more]
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
Some great ideas in there, thanks Jonathan
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Jonathan replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
I imagine details such as the number of times someone is hit – or even the exact manner – would be gratuitous; I don’t think anyone would keep track and I think it could actually lessen the realism as well as being rather unpleasant to read and write imo. But I do wonder if there is a chance to show character, eg sympathy for the victim by showing…[Read more]
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Sandra replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
“if it doesn’t advance the plot or reveal something about character, don’t prolong it.” – excellent advice! Thanks Jane.
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
Jonathan, I don’t want to write more detail of exactly where and how many times they hit her and how much it hurts (or doesn’t) mainly because I don’t think it advances the scene and would therefore be gratuitous. I’ve tried, now, to write enough for the reader to understand that it was horrifying, callous and caused life-threatening damage (which…[Read more]
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Jonathan replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
My question would be why do you not want to write the scene in more detail? Is it a matter of taste? (ie you’re not keen on doing it) Or is it more in keeping with the rest of the book that way?
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Sandra replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
For severe violence done well I’d look at Malcolm Mackay, Ray Banks, Stuart Neville’s ‘The Twelve’. Benjamin Myers ‘Turning Blue’ had me commenting ‘Stomach-churning details precisely told’, or Sarah Hilary. Denise Mina might be good, but I cannot remember which is the most violent.
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
Thriller/Psychological thriller, Anna. If you have any suggestions of books where you think the violence is done well, I’d be interested!
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Kate replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
I think you’ve just answered your own question. 😀 Good luck with developing it.
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
Kate, I think I am may have let my decision to keep the violence short stop the scene from developing in other ways so I’ve been working on that but I can see, nevertheless, that the violence has been threatened for a long time and I’ve ramped up the tension and fear leading up to it and maybe that is why it seems a let down.
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Kate replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
I’m with you and Sandra on not going graphic. Ramping up the PD and inferring what’s going on rather than full on graphic is definitely my preferred route. BUT, don’t ignore feedback either. What percentage of your Beta readers had this reaction? Could you ask the ones who didn’t mention this how they felt. It may be you’re being too short and…[Read more]
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Sandra replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
I’d agree with you Jane, ‘less is more’ works for violent scenes much as it does for sex scenes, though I suppose you’d have to work harder so as to bring something fresh for the readers’ mind to work on.
Those long, graphic scenes can be effective, up to a point but can tun as many off as they do on, so go with your gut feeling. -
JaneShuff started the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago
I am struggling with editing a couple of violent scenes in my WIP. They need to be there. My preference is to keep them short and allusive (spelling?) and leave the reader’s imagination to do the work but a couple of beta readers have felt cheated. I’d post them but they make no sense out of context. Any advice?
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Giselle replied to the topic I've gone and done it again! in the forum Podium 7 years, 7 months ago
Congratulations! I’m so excited for you, that’s such great news. *lifts glass of wine*
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Giselle replied to the topic Festival Dreams in the forum Blogs 7 years, 7 months ago
Coming in late as I’ve been plunged in post-York wip modifications.
Mandy, you were brilliant, funny, natural, endearing, strong and gracious. Like many, I’ve followed your journey, but to hear it all, from the beginning to now, was just wonderful.
Seeing so many of you at York really charged my batteries. There were definitely less cloudies this…[Read more] -
Janette posted an update 7 years, 7 months ago
@sandradavies – your comp. Wow, moody, gritty and tension filled. Nail on the head, I’d say for Haloween.
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Ah … hadn’t thought Halloween so much as WWI – thanks for reading and appreciating.
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Of course – a re-read, bearing that in mind, cast another light altogether and Ioved it all the more. I suppose I just had halloween on my mind.
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In fairness, there’s not so much of a reference to WWI as there was in the tale from which this developed.
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Raine posted an update 7 years, 7 months ago
So, off on holiday tmrw. Printed off first 50pp of wip. What are the odds on my actually editing any of them?
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Pretty much zero if you’re anything like me but it’s hard to leave it behind completely. Enjoy your holiday. The down time is good for refreshing ideas!
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However many (or few) you manage, hope you have a nice, restful catch-up with your mum x
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Depends on the weather … and the opportunities for writing time. Have a great time, anyways.
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Seagreen replied to the topic Den monthly competition September 2018 in the forum Competitions, Open calls and Writing Opportunities 7 years, 7 months ago
Thanks, all. And I hope some of you will try your hand at October’s.
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