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Athelstone replied to the topic Planning vs Winging it. in the forum
A place for Stupid Questoins 6 years, 4 months agoThis is about as not stupid a question as I can think of. In essence it’s ‘how do you write’. The supposed divide (classically) is between pantsers and plotters. Plotters, apparently, plan every detail, before they begin. Every chapter and plot point is set out. if a chapter should end with a challenging hook, then it’s there in the plan. Once the…[Read more]
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Bella replied to the topic Planning vs Winging it. in the forum
A place for Stupid Questoins 6 years, 4 months agoIn every case I have started with a main character, a beginning, and end and a rough idea of how to get to the end.
However, my characters have a way of bossing me around.
In one novel the guy gets the girl, but as I wrote it became clear that the girl was wrong for him and I then had to write a sequel getting him out of that fix (eventually the…[Read more]
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Planning vs Winging it. in the forum
A place for Stupid Questoins 6 years, 4 months agoThe starting point for every book has been different for me and my process has changed as well. I used to plan very little but now I do try and start with the main thrust of the plot clear in my head otherwise I risk wandering too far down interesting paths that lead nowhere. But I need the actual process of writing words and sentences to…[Read more]
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Seagreen replied to the topic Planning vs Winging it. in the forum
A place for Stupid Questoins 6 years, 4 months agoI start with a name – a character who rattles a stick along the boundaries of my subconscious. Someone who, when I am not looking, will sneak through a gap in the railings and broadcast snippets of conversation to pique my interest. If this character stalks me when I am waling the dog, or when I’m driving, then I might allow him/her free-write…[Read more]
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Doug replied to the topic Planning vs Winging it. in the forum
A place for Stupid Questoins 6 years, 4 months agoI start with the basic premise and the characters, and let the plot unfold as I go. I once learned at a writers’ conference that it makes a lot more sense to outline the whole thing in advance, and I agree with that, but it’s never worked that way for me. I can’t nail the thing down, it wants to take off in another direction once I’m writing it.…[Read more]
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Squidge replied to the topic Planning vs Winging it. in the forum
A place for Stupid Questoins 6 years, 4 months agoI normally have a character and and end in sight when I start. Apart from that, I don’t do much planning at all – my brain simply doesn’t work like that. I’d love to be more organised, but personally it’s stifling. I am full of admiration for peeps who do the whole character file/in depth plot/post-it scene arrangements etc!
I do a lot of…[Read more]
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Squidge posted an update 6 years, 4 months ago
In case Denizens are interested… I’m doing a digital zoom launch for Tilda#2 next Friday – details here: https://squidgesscribbles.blogspot.com/2020/07/you-are-invited-totilda-2s-book-launch.html
If you can’t make it, there’ll be a recording which I’ll post at some point in the future.
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Sandra replied to the topic Planning vs Winging it. in the forum
A place for Stupid Questoins 6 years, 4 months agoI used to begin with a conversation between two characters and spread from there. One book I was ~20K in before I knew who would die, and a further 20K before I knew who did it. Even so it turned out to be someone else.
Now that those characters have become so familiar and the twists and turns of their lives compelling enough to become a…[Read more]
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Checking something else, I came across this 2015 blogpost about a book now awaiting a final beta reader : http://sandra-linesofcommunication.blogspot.com/2015/08/back-to-front-strange-and-alien-progress.html
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Athelstone replied to the topic Richard's Literary Byways: The Beginning Place, by Ursula K Le Guin in the forum Blogs 6 years, 4 months ago
Aha, this was the first Ursula K Le Guin book that I read and it made quite an impression on me.
I think you’ve put your finger on why a mixture of normality and fantasy is so effective. The magic becomes a metaphor for the way that changes happen in our lives. As well as providing entertainment for those of us who like a bit of magic in our…[Read more]
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RichardB started the topic Richard's Literary Byways: The Beginning Place, by Ursula K Le Guin in the forum Blogs 6 years, 4 months ago
The eagle-eyed among you may have noticed that this is the second book by Ursula K Le Guin that I have featured in these blogs. This is not a coincidence. I apologise to no one for my admiration of her writing: I believe that she deserves to be ranked, not only as a great writer of sci-fi and fantasy, but as a great writer full stop. I once (or…[Read more]
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A lovely blog, @richardb, and I wholeheartedly agree with your summary of le Guin – she is absolutely one of my favourite writers. I loved her as a young thing and my admiration has only deepened as my own writing journey progresses. Ive never read this and will seek it out – thank you!
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Libby replied to the topic Planning vs Winging it. in the forum
A place for Stupid Questoins 6 years, 4 months agoI outline before I start by knowing the probable ending or at any rate an ending I’m heading for – it could change though hasn’t done so far. And I know what the midpoint or turning point will be – the tightening up when the main character(s) are stuck with what’s happened and have to deal with it in a focused way. This applies to short fiction as…[Read more]
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Andrew Bruton started the topic Planning vs Winging it. in the forum
A place for Stupid Questoins 6 years, 4 months agoI have two books on writing.
‘On editing’ by Helen Corner-Bryant and ‘Outlining Your Novel’ by K.M. Weiland.
One owns a publishing company and I don’t know who the other is but they write a lot of ‘how to write’ books.
How many of you outline your novel before starting?
How deep do you go?
Do you find it helps guide your writing?If not…why…[Read more]
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Andrew Bruton replied to the topic Where to start? in the forum
A place for Stupid Questoins 6 years, 4 months agoThat’s fab, I managed to forget my password and have been locked out for ages so it’s lovely to see responses. I will digest as much as I can. I liked the show/tell example, very useful. Thank you.
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Doug posted an update 6 years, 4 months ago
Listened to a podcast about Tennessee Williams. When he was young, he worked monotonous days in a shoe factory, hating it. He combated this by resolving to write a story a week.
His mother later said: “Tom would go to his room with black coffee and cigarettes and I would hear the typewriter clicking away at night in the silent house. Some…[Read more]
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Athelstone replied to the topic Monthly comp: July 2020 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 4 months ago
Month of the Cat
To be clear, although Gus didn’t get on with the cat, he was never cruel to it. When his wife, Mildred, died he didn’t want to go on taking care of it.
‘It’s vindictive,’ he said, ‘it kills half a dozen birds every day. It craps on the decking, wrecks my flower borders, and last week it scratched up the wallpaper.’…[Read more]
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Squidge posted an update 6 years, 4 months ago
@knickylaurelle – Hi Knicks…sorry but I can see your question but can’t find a way to reply to it! Glad to hear you’re doing OK in spite of everything…having littlies around while studying is HARD! Well done you for getting through it all x
I’m good, ta… writing is much slower going, cos my head’s not always in the right place to…[Read more]
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Hey Squidge! I’m glad I can see your reply and post one of my own. I just finished posting a reply to Kaz and can’t seem to find my way back to it. The Forest of Vanishing Posts is simply marvellous 😌 I’m so glad you’re good, and I absolutely understand the headspace. Socks make life worth living, don’t even @ me on this haha. Comfy feet are the b…[Read more]
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Should be available on Amazon, but also available via the publisher direct http://bbp.bedazzledink.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=6&zenid=961f25f4969463b72b3509e3392cd593
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I think most of us are probably ‘Plantsers’ in reality. And yeah, it means you do end up on the wrong path sometimes. Lots of times, actually… I’m trying to sort one out at the mo in Tilda #3, and it’s hard to back-track and find the point where you actually first stepped off the path.
I’m convinced that you need to be both a planner and a pantser – yes, a planster. The planning and pantsing parts of your brain need to find a way not to just to give each other space but to support each other.