Jonathan

  • Jonathan replied to the topic NaNoWriMo in the forum Coffee Shop 7 years, 7 months ago

    I could SloMo.

  • I like “London and Her Shadow” too, with “Shadow City” a close second.

  • Jonathan replied to the topic NaNoWriMo in the forum Coffee Shop 7 years, 7 months ago

    @raine I made it 1,666 words a day – 50K over 30 days. Have the counts changed?

    Edit: ah, never mind – you did say excluding weekends – I’m half-asleep today!

  • Jonathan replied to the topic NaNoWriMo in the forum Coffee Shop 7 years, 7 months ago

    I didn’t really enjoy it the one year I did it. I stopped using Strava for cycling for the same reason, namely that it becomes, for me, about word count and targets than actual enjoyment of the activity, and that can affect quality. But that’s just my take. People do produce publisher-ready material from it. I probably should do it again. I quite…[Read more]

  • First let me just say that when this is published I am totally buying it!

    Next – titles. Hmm. I love SeaGreen’s “The Time-Snatcher’s Daughter” but that of course could be a bit of a spoiler and I’m sure there’s something like it already out there, but it covers the time angle and the feminine one. I’m getting Gaiman/Mieville vibes with a hint of…[Read more]

  • Jonathan replied to the topic Titles in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago

    Maybe “Seven Years Gone?” Just simple and kind of … vaguely … title-ish? Or maybe just her name. Or what about those title generators or standard methods for titling a book, eg this? Or maybe something that could be a quote at the moment of change that hints at the situation: “Abby Smith Is Hiding” or something.

  • Jonathan replied to the topic Titles in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 7 months ago

    In my head I am wanting to focus on the seven years. Seven is a highly symbolic number. Seven year itch, seven colours of the rainbow. Seven seconds, seventh son of a seventh son. Seven deadly sins, seven horcruxes if you like Harry Potter. I think it’s the first “difficult” number for children to master in multiplication. She’s been gone seven…[Read more]

  • I read something a while ago on “how to accept compliments” or something to that effect. The temptation to say “oh, no, it’s not very good, it’s nothing” is, as I understand it, to be resisted, using a simple “thank you” in its place. Doing this has, for me, changed the way I see myself a little, from impostor playing at “being artistic” to…[Read more]

  • Jonathan replied to the topic For Those in Peril… in the forum Blogs 7 years, 7 months ago

    Will definitely watch that video – thanks for this.

  • Argent Strings

    In his dreams the nylon twanged faster and faster, jumping like fleas, until –

    Until he woke. The hipster fashion for tiny instruments had not run dry. Instead it had uncovered a sinister network of enthusiasts, meeting once a month in railway huts, disused kiosks. The world’s abandoned places. But why? That was his job, to fin…[Read more]

  • Hi,

    I can really see this place, this off-season clifftop eatery, can hear the lonely squawk of gulls and the crush-thump of incoming waves. The atmosphere of near-total stillness in the cafe is well-depicted. And you’ve got some great lines in here, particularly around the descriptions:

    “a fall of autumn leaves across forehead, eye lids, nose,…[Read more]

  • Jonathan replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 8 months ago

    I imagine details such as the number of times someone is hit – or even the exact manner – would be gratuitous; I don’t think anyone would keep track and I think it could actually lessen the realism as well as being rather unpleasant to read and write imo. But I do wonder if there is a chance to show character, eg sympathy for the victim by showing…[Read more]

  • Jonathan replied to the topic Violence in the forum The Writers' Lifeboat 7 years, 8 months ago

    My question would be why do you not want to write the scene in more detail? Is it a matter of taste? (ie you’re not keen on doing it) Or is it more in keeping with the rest of the book that way?

  • Congrats to Seagreen – very well done! And thank you Daeds for running and also for the feedback. Very helpful – so thank you again 🙂

  • Personally unless it’s sci-fi I prefer quaint, pretty and historic; something a little like Lyra’s Oxford in Philip Pullman’s books. I love geography; rivers, canals, trees, paths, places that go somewhere and places that separate, forgotten parts of the city are all good stuff that I find can augment the sense of place; think “Bodies of Water” by…[Read more]

  • Jonathan posted a new activity comment 7 years, 8 months ago

    Mine? I’m looking at a developmental edit rather than copyediting.

  • Jonathan posted a new activity comment 7 years, 8 months ago

    When I’ve looked into developmental editing, the cost seems to come to a couple of thousand at least, for a 140,000 word MS. The JW one is about £780 which is a bit more do-able. Who have people used?

    • I always ask for Debi, cos she is editrix supreme. It meant I had to wait sometimes, but it was always worth it. Not sure who else they have on the books for editing…

  • Jonathan posted a new activity comment 7 years, 8 months ago

    Ah yep, thanks. There I am looking at £782. Was yours a copy edit or developmental, or something else?

    • Not sure who you are asking, but mine was development, ‘does this have legs?’ (In hindsight, I think I might’ve been robbed.)

      • I’d also recommend that before submitting to an editor, you have someone proofread it properly – get the punctuation right (if that’s not your strength) and typos sorted.

    • Mine covered the structure, story, development etc. in some depth with recommendations and critique and an assessment of good and bad features and marketability. There was copy-editing but this was not the primary purpose.

  • Jonathan posted an update 7 years, 8 months ago

    Quick question: has anyone here ever paid for the services of an editor, and if so, how much was it?

    • I had a detailed editorial report a few years back from Writers’ Workshop. 85,000 words cost £457. Today, Jericho writers will charge you about £547 for the same work. (I say ‘about’ because they quote $720 – which is odd for a UK based firm)

      • If you go to their site, there’s a drop-down table of charges for a range or word counts.

        • I did the same as Ath – several times over. Price is often based on the length of your manuscript, and varies from editor to editor/company to company.
          But a good editor is definitely worth paying for – just be absolutely certain that your MS is as polished as you can get it before you send it (use trusted beta readers for eg) to save doing it…[Read more]

          • I paid ~£600 for a 109K ms via the Cloud, but have since learned it is cheaper, by ~30% to approach an editor direct.
            You may find that authors in the genre you write in are willing to edit – there’s certainly loads on the crime circuit.
            I have to say I got far more help from beta readers.

      • Ah yep, thanks. There I am looking at £782. Was yours a copy edit or developmental, or something else?

        • Not sure who you are asking, but mine was development, ‘does this have legs?’ (In hindsight, I think I might’ve been robbed.)

          • I’d also recommend that before submitting to an editor, you have someone proofread it properly – get the punctuation right (if that’s not your strength) and typos sorted.

        • Mine covered the structure, story, development etc. in some depth with recommendations and critique and an assessment of good and bad features and marketability. There was copy-editing but this was not the primary purpose.

    • Is this for an editorial report, or to actually edit the text?

    • I have, Jonathan, a couple of times. Mine was for an editorial report, but included a general text edit. I went directly to a book doctor/editor rather than through Cloud. As I have already seen mentioned, they tend to be more competitively priced and thorough, though it depends what you’re after.

      • When I’ve looked into developmental editing, the cost seems to come to a couple of thousand at least, for a 140,000 word MS. The JW one is about £780 which is a bit more do-able. Who have people used?

        • I always ask for Debi, cos she is editrix supreme. It meant I had to wait sometimes, but it was always worth it. Not sure who else they have on the books for editing…

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