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Bella started the topic Violence and mental illness in the forum Blogs 7 years, 10 months ago
Sorry, this is nothing to do with writing, but I’m a bit rattled by events earlier today and I suspect that some of our members may have some useful input.
Long story short, a previous member of our gym has mental health issues and was at some point under residential treatment for these (I don’t know if this was voluntary or not). Our gym was…[Read more]
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Mad Iguana replied to the topic My failure in the forum Podium 7 years, 10 months ago
To be honest, Alan, that the very act of having written something complete enough to be able to send it out to comps is a success, so I’d start off by saying Congratulations on that massive success before worrying about the relatively small “failures” that followed.
That said… It’s far easier to say these things than do them/feel them. My…[Read more] -
StellaOlivetti replied to the topic My failure in the forum Podium 7 years, 10 months ago
I am not sure what I feel about this. On the one hand, Alan, I don’t think you should term not getting long listed in four novel competitions a failure. (Actually I am impressed you managed to find four to enter – I never can find any that seem suitable.) We just don’t know enough about what the judges are looking for. And trying to second…[Read more]
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Alan Rain replied to the topic My failure in the forum Podium 7 years, 10 months ago
@Raine Your view of semantics (and that of others) is a moot point. Is failure not trying, or not winning? I think I may be too inclined towards not winning, and some re-education is necessary.
When considering success and failure, I think it’s important not to forget why writers do write. Surely, all the various reasons can be summed-up as…[Read more] -
Daedalus replied to the topic My failure in the forum Podium 7 years, 10 months ago
The not-getting-shortlisted thing is tricky. I had one story that was shortlisted in a major competition. I worked on it a bit more and submitted it to a few other places…and was met with silence.
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Raine replied to the topic My failure in the forum Podium 7 years, 10 months ago
Oh, failure is hard! And so unavoidable. It’s a bit like the ‘slushpile’ term though isn’t it? Perhaps more negative than it needs to be for some of the things we are talking about. Things like not getting short listed in major comps, or not getting a story into a popular journal … are they really failure, or are they a lack of success? Maybe…[Read more]
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RichardB replied to the topic My failure in the forum Podium 7 years, 10 months ago
I’m rather good at that too. Though how would I Know? In concrete terms I haven’t actually had any writing successes.
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Alan Rain replied to the topic A Room with a View in the forum Blogs 7 years, 10 months ago
Thanks. I didn’t realise it was a group.
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Woolleybeans replied to the topic A Room with a View in the forum Blogs 7 years, 10 months ago
Go to ‘Groups’
Go to ‘A Room with a View’
Go to ‘Forum’
The different topics are all in the ‘A Room with a View’ group forum. You will find ‘Chit Chat’ and explanations of what the competition is there.
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Alan Rain replied to the topic A Room with a View in the forum Blogs 7 years, 10 months ago
I’m trying to understand this, but it’s like ‘Mornington Crescent’.
All I understand is that it’s a short story competition.
Where are the rules? Where is this ‘chit chat’ – I looked in ‘Room with a view’, but got directed somewhere else.Maybe it’s not for me because I don’t (as yet) write short stories.
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Elle replied to the topic A Room with a View in the forum Blogs 7 years, 10 months ago
Has the competition moved here from the word cloud. Do I need to sign again? Where is the group? Can you tell I’m confused?
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Athelstone posted an update 7 years, 10 months ago
5 days to enter A Room with a View
If you don’t get in this challenge, you’ll regret it. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.
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Daedalus replied to the topic My failure in the forum Podium 7 years, 10 months ago
A failure of mine is to take each failure to heart while not believing that successes are real or worthy
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GippsGirl replied to the topic Guidance on writing about mental health topics in the forum Marketplace 7 years, 10 months ago
On the How to get an Agent thread, page 3. In any event, here is the course:
https://www.faberacademy.co.uk/creative-writing-courses/who-do-you-think-they-are-character-creative-writing-course-gic2.htmlThe course is horrendously expensive, and the course info is a little misleading in that the tutoring is only in the morning. Nevertheless, I,…[Read more]
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Alan Rain replied to the topic My failure in the forum Podium 7 years, 10 months ago
@Bellam @PhilippaEast @Squidge Thanks for your kind words, but it’s difficult for a self-driven person not to be harsh with himself.
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Jonathan posted an update 7 years, 10 months ago
Quick question: has anyone here ever paid for the services of an editor, and if so, how much was it?
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I had a detailed editorial report a few years back from Writers’ Workshop. 85,000 words cost £457. Today, Jericho writers will charge you about £547 for the same work. (I say ‘about’ because they quote $720 – which is odd for a UK based firm)
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If you go to their site, there’s a drop-down table of charges for a range or word counts.
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I did the same as Ath – several times over. Price is often based on the length of your manuscript, and varies from editor to editor/company to company.
But a good editor is definitely worth paying for – just be absolutely certain that your MS is as polished as you can get it before you send it (use trusted beta readers for eg) to save doing it…[Read more]-
I paid ~£600 for a 109K ms via the Cloud, but have since learned it is cheaper, by ~30% to approach an editor direct.
You may find that authors in the genre you write in are willing to edit – there’s certainly loads on the crime circuit.
I have to say I got far more help from beta readers.
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Ah yep, thanks. There I am looking at £782. Was yours a copy edit or developmental, or something else?
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Not sure who you are asking, but mine was development, ‘does this have legs?’ (In hindsight, I think I might’ve been robbed.)
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I’d also recommend that before submitting to an editor, you have someone proofread it properly – get the punctuation right (if that’s not your strength) and typos sorted.
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Mine covered the structure, story, development etc. in some depth with recommendations and critique and an assessment of good and bad features and marketability. There was copy-editing but this was not the primary purpose.
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Is this for an editorial report, or to actually edit the text?
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Mine? I’m looking at a developmental edit rather than copyediting.
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Ah, right. I do the latter, but not really the former
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I have, Jonathan, a couple of times. Mine was for an editorial report, but included a general text edit. I went directly to a book doctor/editor rather than through Cloud. As I have already seen mentioned, they tend to be more competitively priced and thorough, though it depends what you’re after.
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When I’ve looked into developmental editing, the cost seems to come to a couple of thousand at least, for a 140,000 word MS. The JW one is about £780 which is a bit more do-able. Who have people used?
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I always ask for Debi, cos she is editrix supreme. It meant I had to wait sometimes, but it was always worth it. Not sure who else they have on the books for editing…
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