John S Alty

  • It was. I have a bit of a confession actually – in the first Cloud monthly competition I ever entered, I got more than one flash of inspiration and asked if multiple entries were permitted. The competition setter said OK, but after my third entry, suggested that maybe enough was enough 🙂

  • A good question though, John.

  • I think that’s a good call @libby. Don’t want to inhibit anyone’s creativity, but you’re right about the increased possibility of success

  • Many thanks, @daedalus.

    Having thought about it a bit more, I’m going to restrict entries to one per person.

    Although lots of competitions allow multiple entries I think that as the Den monthly competitions are small, double entries would skew the chance of winning too much in a double entrant’s favour. If several people were likely to post two…[Read more]

  • @libby I’m inclined to leave it up to the setter of the individual competition. I don’t see the harm in allowing one additional entry

  • Personally I think that would be fine, John. I can’t see anything in the rules against it. I don’t think you’d need a pseudonym either.

    But before you go ahead I’ll check with a higher authority. @daedalus – over to you, please!

  • Kate replied to the topic Mid grade 1st chapter in the forum Critiques 6 years, 8 months ago

    Thanks @KazG. Your thoughts on this are comforting. I was worried if I had to pull back and simplify more I might lose the voice, but I wanted to know if I needed to do a major edit on this aspect or not. I’ll stop worrying about it now.

    But, as always, the feedback has been great at throwing up some other issues, so I shall get to work on Pix’s…[Read more]

  • KazG replied to the topic Mid grade 1st chapter in the forum Critiques 6 years, 8 months ago

    Hi @katemachon, just got to this. I love the voice! I do agree about paring down the descriptions, making them part of the action as much as possible. And yes, you need to give us a reason to be on Ariadne’s side – give us her motivations, what she wants, what she fears.

    I would also warn against overthinking the whole positioning of it,…[Read more]

  • Kate replied to the topic Mid grade 1st chapter in the forum Critiques 6 years, 8 months ago

    I had a sticky scene that wasn’t working Squidge, and after some time away from it I reread and thought D’oh, of course she wouldn’t react like that. She’d be angry. It’s funny how the characters become real people in our heads.

    Thanks for the heads up about Kingstone. I shall go take a look.

  • Kate replied to the topic Mid grade 1st chapter in the forum Critiques 6 years, 8 months ago

    I did a bit of googling and everybody says something different. Apparently in 2014 there were more first person than third, so I guess it just varies.

    I shall attempt to find more subtle ways of placing my characters, as you suggested. Thanks for all the help. I’ll keep it all in mind as I go in for the next round of edits.

  • I should perhaps confess that my own novel is written in 1st person, and I have so far resisted the notion of changing it.

    As for the Brownie Brigade Captain, if he were breathing down Ariadne’s neck or humming in her ear, or something that draws Ariadne’s attention to him, it would draw ours as a result, if that makes any sense.

  • Kate replied to the topic Mid grade 1st chapter in the forum Critiques 6 years, 8 months ago

    That’s a really good point Sea. I took a look at my MG books and they’re all third person! Thanks for the Jess Butterworth one – I shall take a look. I’ll also try and do some investigating into first/third. (And possibly have a cry over my keyboard at the thought of rewriting into third. :D)

  • I wonder if this is the reason more MG books are written in 3rd person? When you write in 1st person, you don’t think like the character, you are the character, and I think that additional explanations will ultimately slow the pace.

    I tried to find a MG book written in first person for comparison and all I could think of was Running on the Roof…[Read more]

  • Kate replied to the topic Mid grade 1st chapter in the forum Critiques 6 years, 8 months ago

    Thanks @seagreen, this is all great. I’ll have a think about the save the cat moment and ramp up the fear a bit as a few people have mentioned that. I’ll weed out some of the description as well.

    Re the being in the character’s head, and the explanations like ‘standing next to me’, I think you’ve cut to the heart of my question re YA vs MG…[Read more]

  • Hi Kate,

    I don’t see a problem with the language either, to be honest, but (like Squidge) I did wonder about the amount of description at the start. It takes us out of the moment and lessens the impact of the question ‘How did I end up in this mess?’ if you see what I mean?

    I have a few observations, obviously ignore anything that doesn’t work…[Read more]

  • Kate replied to the topic Mid grade 1st chapter in the forum Critiques 6 years, 8 months ago

    Thanks @bella – it was fun to write.

    Perfect @squidge, that’s great to know it’s about right. I was worrying it was a bit densely packed but maybe I just have to be careful of too heavy descriptions. I shall tweak as suggested.

  • Bella replied to the topic Mid grade 1st chapter in the forum Critiques 6 years, 8 months ago

    I have no experience of writing MG, and it is a loooooong time since I was aged between 8 and 12 (that’s the MG target, right?) but I would say you are slap bang on the money. I’d certainly have gone for this at that age. It’s great fun.

  • I’ve got a draft of what is meant to be an upper mid grade novel, but I have concerns I’ve written it in a too Young Adult style. I’m specifically looking for feedback from experienced MG writers on whether I need to adjust the language/structure, and how I might go about it.

    All other comments also welcome.
    Many thanks.

    (As usual the…[Read more]

  • Kate posted an update 6 years, 8 months ago

    Are there any mid grade writers on the Den that would be willing to take a look at the first chapter of my MG book? Someone suggested I was using a YA style that might not be appropriate and I can see what they mean. I’d like thoughts on language and structure relating to MG books before embarking on the next edit.
    I’ll post it up in crit for…[Read more]

  • I spent a day in Seville. I recommend a) don’t drive; it’s considerably more insane than Paris and that’s bad enough b) wear a surgical mask or take oxygen; the air reminded me of London circa 1973 only much, much, worse c) we liked the Plaza de España and the Cathedral, but honestly there’s so much. We were almost persuaded to visit the site of…[Read more]

    • Thank Ath. Going to the cathedral and the palaces tomorrow and spent the day wandering around including seeing students doing Flamenco at Plaza Espana. Fabulous. It is all fabulous for folks like us who live in a little breton coastal backwater although you are right about the air. Did you see my post last week about failing to get enouh done in…[Read more]

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