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  • Sandra replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago

    WHOOPS and apologies – I missed this, through being away and then returning with much to catch up with.
    I’ve many, many reasons to be immeasurably grateful for the careful reading, insight and sensible, sensitive suggestions put forward by several beta readers of my novels while being aware that I am likely a poor beta reader, partly because I…[Read more]

    • Gosh, 200 books a year. That’s really impressive. I think I’m doing well – for me – at 60 p.a.

  • EMERGENCE

    You stand alone, in the northwest corner of the cellar deck, gloved hands resting on the handrail and face tilted to the sun.

    Breathe in.
    Breathe out.

    Above you, clouds rag-roll an azure sky, while beneath you, an aging platform sways to the rhythm of the North Sea.

    Breathe in.
    Breathe out.

    Solitude. It catches you unawares,…[Read more]

  • It was the same every year.

    She took as many precautions as possible, wrapping everything carefully, keeping the box closed tight until the right moment came, making sure her hands were washed clean when it did.

    And then…

    Ordering everyone to sit down, sit still. Questioning each participant in turn to make sure she knew their exact r…[Read more]

  • Bella replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago

    I also don’t beta read to any sort of checklist. I will always check first with the author what they particularly want feedback on – if they feel something might not be working, but aren’t sure, or whatever. Then I will make sure to address those issues, as well as make other comments as I think necessary.

    I have quite a sharp eye from the…[Read more]

    • I have that issue with reading for pleasure too, Bella. I can rarely switch off my beta reading brain. Which is frustrating.

  • Squidge replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago

    Wowser…beta reading…

    As a beta reader, I do try to find something good to say as well as making suggestions for improvements. I don’t think I go into it with a checklist per se – I use gut feeling a lot as to what feels ‘right’ to me as a reader. But I sometimess feel that I’m not an objective enough beta reader – I don’t always ‘get’ other…[Read more]

  • KazG replied to the topic The Future of the Den in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago

    Phew! Nothing new to add to add really. I don’t spend much time here because I’m spread way too thin as it is – life is crazy trying to keep a travel business alive during this time and also publicise book one and edit book two and I genuinely struggle with fitting it all in and not burning out.

    However – when I do have time and inclination,…[Read more]

  • RichardB replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago

    I’m probably too instinctive for my own good. I’ve been told at various times that I have a natural feel for plot and pace, that my characters speak with their own distinctive voices, even that I’m good at that notoriously difficult thing, sex, but I never step aside and coldly think about any of these things. When I see phrases like…[Read more]

  • Kate started the topic Short story acceptance in the forum Podium 5 years, 1 month ago

    I woke up this morning to an acceptance email for a witchy short story from All Worlds Wayfarer. 😃

    Thanks to the Songs of Innocence writing challenge which brought this story into being.

  • Kate replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago

    I’ve found beta reading an excellent way to learn. I think it’s easier to see crafting mistakes in others work, and then I try to carry that knowledge across to my own writing. Easier said than done.

    I always jot margin notes as I read to record my initial reactions. It’s harder on a reread to see the parts that jolt me, and you only get one…[Read more]

  • RichardB replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago

    I don’t reckon myself as much of a beta reader either. Partly it may be lack of confidence in my own opinions, but mostly I think it’s because I seem to have trouble thinking analytically about writing, including my own. Years ago when I did the S-E Course, I repeatedly had the experience of Debi, or one of the others, telling me I’d been clever…[Read more]

  • Thea replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago

    Libby and Jane have come up with some excellent questions and I can’t add much except for:

    Does the writer have any specific questions? This might be something that’s crucial to whether the story works or not, e.g. Did you work out whodunit? If so, when?

    Did you notice any discrepancies / inconsistencies in the story?

    Were you conscious of…[Read more]

  • Athelstone replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago

    Why do you say you’re a terrible beta reader?

    It’s a bit like when I had to read books for exams at school. It was no reflection on the work itself and I’ve read many of the books since with great pleasure. Something about picking up a book for a purpose (a meta-purpose if you like) that isn’t simply pleasure, idle curiosity, whatever, and my…[Read more]

  • JaneShuff replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago

    Wow. So so much interesting and useful stuff, @Libby ! It would make a brilliant checklist for anyone. It will take me a bit of time to assimilate it all. I will say though, with my ‘Being betaread’ hat on, that I wouldn’t expect a beta reader of a whole novel to cover all that for me in one go if anyone is feeling a bit daunted.

    @athelstone Why…[Read more]

  • Athelstone replied to the topic Beta Reading Discussion in the forum Blogs 5 years, 1 month ago

    Thanks for the topic. May I add that I’m a terrible beta reader. I would like to be more useful and hope to pick up some tips if this discussion develops and hopefully turns into something more.

  • Here’s a separate topic for a discussion about Beta Reading. Please feel free to contribute to the discussion both on your experiences of having your work beta read and on beta reading other people’s book.

    I’ll kick it off by repeating that Beta Reading has taught me a lot. I approach it from my experience of the book as a reader. Noting down my…[Read more]

  • RichardB replied to the topic "I write like" in the forum Coffee Shop 5 years, 1 month ago

    Yes, in my first passage my MC was being smitten at his first sight of a young lady, and in the second someone was getting blasted with a shotgun. Hmm, content…

  • JaneShuff replied to the topic "I write like" in the forum Coffee Shop 5 years, 1 month ago

    James Joyce!

  • JaneShuff replied to the topic "I write like" in the forum Coffee Shop 5 years, 1 month ago

    I’ll try with a more lyrical section… watch this space.

  • JaneShuff replied to the topic "I write like" in the forum Coffee Shop 5 years, 1 month ago

    Ha ha! I write like Stephen King! I think Libby is right though and the program looks at content mostly as this was a particularly horror full section!

  • RichardB replied to the topic "I write like" in the forum Coffee Shop 5 years, 1 month ago

    Now there’s interesting, as we say in Wales. Based on two short extracts from the last novel I wrote, I write either like James Joyce or (wait for it) Dan Brown. Not much difference…

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