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RichardB replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago
Hilary, my reactions to this are twofold. First, intense sympathy for you. What an awful let-down! Even if she did make clear what the actual purpose of the meeting was, it shows a certain sense of entitlement (as Ath said) to expect you to come running to London at the crook of a finger just for a chat about revisions. And if it never occurred to…[Read more]
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Sandra replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago
Hilary, as an aside, the Bookoture girl did say she had a 96 year-old on her list for whom she had so far published some 23 ‘cosy crime’ novels. ‘One every couple of weeks’ she said.
Feedback today from those who did pitch to her said she refused most straight off. Made suggestions to make more acceptable to one and I now of another who pitched…[Read more]
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Hilary replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago
To be fair, she didn’t say it was about representation. I just thought/hoped it would be. She said it was to discuss suggested revisions and how we might work together. As well as the thing about commercial/literary, there were so many aspects of the book that she thought didn’t work, I even asked her why she had wanted to meet me and she said…[Read more]
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Athelstone replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago
I sort of worry a bit when I see agents pushing writers this way. In fact, my hackles start to hack or rise or whatever they’d do if I had them. Book Club fiction is Literary Fiction that agents reckon they should be able to sell better than average. As for this splitting of work into ever more categories as though this is some kind of scientific…[Read more]
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Raine replied to the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago
Oh blimey Hilary! What a demoralising experience! Did she mention your age ina negative ‘this is offputting’ kind of way? Because that’s outrageous if so. And you’re right – I see so many ‘I got my first book deal at x yrs old’ that I would never have expected it to be an issue. My guess/hope is that this agent is perhaps the exception rather than…[Read more]
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Hilary replied to the topic Monthly competition – February 2020 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 1 month ago
Rachel agreed, in the end, to a bath.
The water was hot. There were bubbles. The scent made her think of purple.
She closed her eyes. Lowered herself, let her hands float, slid down until her head was under water. She let the breath go out of her and waited. Slowly, she pushed herself back up. Water dripped from her face, her hair. Steam…[Read more]
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Hilary started the topic Recent agent experience in the forum Blogs 6 years, 1 month ago
I’ve been thinking of posting something about this for a while, and have been prompted to do so by Sandra’s link to the Bookouture post about commercial fiction.
I began submitting my novel to agents in July last year. I had my first full request the next day, even though it was the weekend, so you can imagine my excitement. I received two more…[Read more]
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Sorry – the spreadtheword post with bookouture editors.
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Your post has made me rage! Well done on getting all those requests for the full. But why on God’s green earth would an agent drag you all the way to London for a chat, without first making it clear that she was not going to represent you. You may have wanted to take advantage of the rare opportunity for a face to face anyway, but could she not…[Read more]
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Thanks for your rage! It was an expensive journey, too. Not off peak so I could not even use my SENIOR railcard!!
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To be fair, she did say the meeting was to discuss suggested revisions and talk about how we might work together.
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Gosh @hilary, I am raging on your behalf too! This all sounds so demoralising, and I do admire your fortitude in picking yourself up and starting a new book. I hope you’ll focus on the fact that you had lots of requests for a full ms – even on a weekend!! – and take Raine’s advice and submit again. As you rightly say, many agents have book club…[Read more]
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Sandra posted an update 6 years, 1 month ago
Useful definition of ‘commercial fiction’ from Bookouture : https://www.spreadtheword.org.uk/unpicking-commercial-fiction-with-bookoutures-editors/?fbclid=IwAR2FfqSMY8Ms3zZe4lrExLhphK9X5Xab6lLU330ZQG5-dDxpRkbxYeodKVM
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Thanks, Sandra. As you say, this is useful.
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Very clear!
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Yes, this was interesting, especially, to me, the mention of book club fiction. I can feel a blog coming on…
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But also worth noting, Karen Sullivan of Orenda Books specifically states she likes books that cross genres; said so two years ago and repeated it Tuesday night.
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JaneShuff replied to the topic Monthly competition – February 2020 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 2 months ago
Shades of the Prison House
Freddie worries about his snail as he trudges through the iron gates. Will she remember to give it the lettuce leaves? There’d been no time before they left what with packing his bag with pencils and crayons. And was there anything else he wanted to take? A toy? Something to play with the other children? No, he c…[Read more]
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Mad Iguana replied to the topic What if I'm a bad human being? in the forum Blogs 6 years, 2 months ago
I’m late to this debate, but it’s a very interesting one, so I hope no-one minds me resurrecting it.
My view on this is very utilitarian (I think), in that I always – consciously or unconsciously – try to work out whether the value of the book/music/art/movie/whatever is greater to me than the cost of reading/listening/watching it.
And the…[Read more]
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Janette replied to the topic Monthly competition – February 2020 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 2 months ago
A Spill of Tea
I thought I’d bagged the prize of a lifetime when I landed my new job and the salary that came with it. The buzz about the café I’d worked at was great, but buzz didn’t pay bills, did it? Buzz didn’t afford a better flat, one I felt comfortable inviting friends back to; a holiday now and then. This new opportunity, it felt like win…[Read more]
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Raine replied to the topic Monthly competition – February 2020 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 2 months ago
Very little time this week, so throwing this one up before I read it again and spot all the errors!!
Enter the darkness
One hundred days, of which this is the first. We stand in snow that has crusted metallic overnight, not yet deep although that will come tomorrow, I think. It is eleven forty-five and we stand in a ragged line at the edge of…[Read more]
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JaneShuff posted an update 6 years, 2 months ago
If anyone wants to see where I live, it’s in todays’s Guardian!
https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2020/feb/22/five-lesser-known-holiday-destinations-in-france-
Oh they all look amazing @janeshuff, which one is your home town?
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Le Conquet. And the first picture shows the Blanc Sablons beach. We live just above it and I look out at the same headlands and sea every morning from the room upstairs where I write. Can’t see them today because it’s drizzly and misty!
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I spent a week last year at St Just, which is the English equivalent to Le Conquet – the westernmost town in England. i loved it, and I’d guess that Le Conquet has much of the same edge-of-the-map feeling about it. What a nice place to live you have. If I weren’t so fond of my own home I’d be quite envious.
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Wow, what a beautiful place to live and to write @janeshuff 🙂
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There are some lovely things about living here but, like everywhere, it has its not so great points!
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It does look a lovely place, and you have the best of both worlds there as it’s not too far to go to cross the Channel 🙂
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How lovely.
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I am envious.
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That’s gorgeous!
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Sandra posted an update 6 years, 2 months ago
Fiona Erskine aka Bric has a launch of her second book coming up and as I can’t go, asked me to pass on the invitation:
#The Chemical Reaction is launching at Blackwell’s bookshop in Holborn, London on the evening of Thursday 16th April 2020. -
Athelstone replied to the topic What if I'm a bad human being? in the forum Blogs 6 years, 2 months ago
Of course, I hadn’t fully considered how many cases there are until I started this. For instance, I read We Need to Talk About Kevin long before I knew anything about Lionel Shriver – possibly before she had begun the process of disseminating her curious bag of libertarian views* across the media and the web. I still consider it a beautifully…[Read more]
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John S Alty replied to the topic Monthly competition – February 2020 in the forum Monthly Competition 6 years, 2 months ago
New Day
The smoke from cooking fires lay like a grey blanket over Alexandra township and a tangerine sun rose behind it, then burst clear and threw its warming mantle over the land. The windows of the high-rise buildings on the distant Johannesburg skyline glinted like slabs of molten gold. A typical autumn dawn on the highveld but this was not a…[Read more]
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Daedalus replied to the topic What if I'm a bad human being? in the forum Blogs 6 years, 2 months ago
Just seen an interesting twist on this. A bookshop is making a donation to a charity supporting trans kids every time they sell a book by JK Rowling
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Jules replied to the topic What if I'm a bad human being? in the forum Blogs 6 years, 2 months ago
I agree with what you say, Raine. I should have clarified what I meant by problematic. For instance there are readers who boycott writers just on someone else’s sayso – I think you should always do your due dillifence and try to find out the whole story in as far as you can. Three independant sources of verification and I won’t boycott a book…[Read more]
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Raine replied to the topic What if I'm a bad human being? in the forum Blogs 6 years, 2 months ago
I guess the line I draw with this is slightly different – it kind of depends if the work is current or not (or still within copyright, I guess). Partly because I don’t want to financially benefit anyone whose beliefs I find harmful (and that includes Roald Dahl’s estate). It feels like a condoning of their views to say ‘yeah you are hateful to x…[Read more]
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Jules replied to the topic What if I'm a bad human being? in the forum Blogs 6 years, 2 months ago
This is something that I end up discussing a lot with my co-dragon on Dissecting Dragons. Ultimately, I think it’s fine to read and enjoy problematic art by problematic artists. The important thing is that you are questioning both within your own mind. I’ve boycotted certain YA authors because they’ve been involved in horrific online bullyimg…[Read more]
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