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Alan Rain replied to the topic My failure in the forum Podium 7 years, 7 months ago
@Bellam @PhilippaEast @Squidge Thanks for your kind words, but it’s difficult for a self-driven person not to be harsh with himself.
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Squidge replied to the topic My failure in the forum Podium 7 years, 7 months ago
Definitely not failure if you’ve tried some comps – you had to write the bloomin’ entry first! And from experience, competitions can be a matter of luck as well as great writing – does the judge like your particular genre? Your style? I know from peer-judging comps on the cloud, my own preference for reading material comes through in the kind of…[Read more]
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John S Alty replied to the topic Den monthly competition September 2018 in the forum Competitions, Open calls and Writing Opportunities 7 years, 7 months ago
A New Dawn
A blood red sun rose through the smoke from a thousand cooking fires, smoke that hung like mist over distant Alexandra township. A typical African morning on the highveld, but this was not a typical day. Daniel and his mother stepped from the bus onto the dusty road and followed the other passengers. Daniel wished his father could be…[Read more]
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Jonathan posted an update 7 years, 7 months ago
Quick question: has anyone here ever paid for the services of an editor, and if so, how much was it?
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I had a detailed editorial report a few years back from Writers’ Workshop. 85,000 words cost £457. Today, Jericho writers will charge you about £547 for the same work. (I say ‘about’ because they quote $720 – which is odd for a UK based firm)
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If you go to their site, there’s a drop-down table of charges for a range or word counts.
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I did the same as Ath – several times over. Price is often based on the length of your manuscript, and varies from editor to editor/company to company.
But a good editor is definitely worth paying for – just be absolutely certain that your MS is as polished as you can get it before you send it (use trusted beta readers for eg) to save doing it…[Read more]-
I paid ~£600 for a 109K ms via the Cloud, but have since learned it is cheaper, by ~30% to approach an editor direct.
You may find that authors in the genre you write in are willing to edit – there’s certainly loads on the crime circuit.
I have to say I got far more help from beta readers.
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Ah yep, thanks. There I am looking at £782. Was yours a copy edit or developmental, or something else?
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Not sure who you are asking, but mine was development, ‘does this have legs?’ (In hindsight, I think I might’ve been robbed.)
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I’d also recommend that before submitting to an editor, you have someone proofread it properly – get the punctuation right (if that’s not your strength) and typos sorted.
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Mine covered the structure, story, development etc. in some depth with recommendations and critique and an assessment of good and bad features and marketability. There was copy-editing but this was not the primary purpose.
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Is this for an editorial report, or to actually edit the text?
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Mine? I’m looking at a developmental edit rather than copyediting.
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Ah, right. I do the latter, but not really the former
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I have, Jonathan, a couple of times. Mine was for an editorial report, but included a general text edit. I went directly to a book doctor/editor rather than through Cloud. As I have already seen mentioned, they tend to be more competitively priced and thorough, though it depends what you’re after.
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When I’ve looked into developmental editing, the cost seems to come to a couple of thousand at least, for a 140,000 word MS. The JW one is about £780 which is a bit more do-able. Who have people used?
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I always ask for Debi, cos she is editrix supreme. It meant I had to wait sometimes, but it was always worth it. Not sure who else they have on the books for editing…
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Philippa East replied to the topic My failure in the forum Podium 7 years, 7 months ago
@alanr, commiseration on the “failures”, but it’s never a failure to put your work out there and to try. Glad you got some useful feedback at your one–to-one and you’ve found a way to implement it
@bellam I am excited about the new computer. I do agree that we remain writers even when not physically writing. It’s nice that you can see that your…[Read more]
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Philippa East replied to the topic Getting an Agent. in the forum Blogs 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi @alanr. My hair IS kind of chestnut, but I wouldn’t call it vivid! So don’t think that was me…. Hope we will cross paths another time.
Yes @daedalus – I suspect there is a US / UK split. The writer I knew who kept putting “c”s on things was from the States.
I think I recall @Debi weighing in on the discussion previously to say no “c”…[Read more]
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Philippa East posted an update 7 years, 7 months ago
Thank-you for the bum-kicks everyone! They were great, and it was idea of tea that did it in the end (surprise!). I have rewritten the scene. It’s not perfect, but it’s done. Phew.
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Alan Rain started the topic My failure in the forum Podium 7 years, 7 months ago
Yes, it’s best to confront your failures. You can learn from them.
My significant failure this year has been to enter 4 novel award comps, and not get anywhere at all. Not even one Long list. The first was disappointing, then the others predictable.
At one of my agent 1-to-1s at York, I was told my opening lacked atmosphere, and maybe that also…[Read more]
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Alan Rain replied to the topic Getting an Agent. in the forum Blogs 7 years, 7 months ago
@PhilippaEast That’s good to know. But I only recently took mine off, and fortunately before I sent my 50 pages off to agents.
When I started writing it, there was plenty of advice to include the “c”.Just out of interest, at FOW18 (Sunday) did you have the chestnut hair? At one talk I sat behind a lady with vivid hair of that colour, and…[Read more]
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Philippa East replied to the topic Short Story Publication/Competition in the forum Podium 7 years, 7 months ago
Congrats! This is great.
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Alan Rain replied to the topic Getting an Agent. in the forum Blogs 7 years, 7 months ago
@Johnalty That’s what I thought.
@Raine My first reaction, too. Said author has since rubbished the idea. But otoh, every activity known to mankind has its share of cheats. -
Philippa East replied to the topic Getting an Agent. in the forum Blogs 7 years, 7 months ago
Yes, there’s been previous discussions about this. Bottom line, no need to copyright (or to put that copyright “c” on any docs.)
Putting that “c” on looks naive at best, narcissistic at worst!
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Philippa East posted an update 7 years, 7 months ago
Can someone give me a kick up the bum to rewrite this chapter that needs fixing? I’ve got the dead, but run out of steam…
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*got the ideas, I meant
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Sending much steam, and also mild violence…
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Gaaaargh
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A purely figurative kick from me. Also would a cup of tea help replenish the steam?
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Yes!!
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I’ll put the kettle on 😉
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Well, if you don’t write it. someone else will. And while they won’t do as good a job, theirs will nevertheless be the last word.
How’m I doing in the bum-kicking leaderboard? 😉
In seriousness: if you are struggling with just filling the space and doing it, why not have a play? Load the scene with symbolism. Pack out the scenery with things…[Read more]
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You can do it. You’re on the final stretch!
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Got it!
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Philippa East replied to the topic Guidance on writing about mental health topics in the forum Marketplace 7 years, 7 months ago
Oh! Where is that thread, please, @gippsgirl ?
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John S Alty replied to the topic Getting an Agent. in the forum Blogs 7 years, 7 months ago
An author’s work is automatically copyrighted as soon as it’s produced. Registering copyright is not necessary. All registration does is make legal pursuit of a plagiarist a little easier.
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Raine replied to the topic Getting an Agent. in the forum Blogs 7 years, 7 months ago
Gosh, no @alanr! That seems fairly ott and kind of paranoid. Plus a lot of hassle, right? Spending time and money to copyright something on the small chance that an agent will like it, and even smaller chance that they can be bothered stealing a promising idea rather than just requesting a full ms.
Who was the published author? I’m intrigued…[Read more]
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Alan Rain replied to the topic Getting an Agent. in the forum Blogs 7 years, 7 months ago
There’s a tweet today by a published author saying a ‘budding author’ (unnamed) believes he/she should copyright a synopsis before sending it out.
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Raine replied to the topic Short Story Publication/Competition in the forum Podium 7 years, 7 months ago
Well done, @johnalty!! That’s fab – will pop over and have a read.
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GippsGirl started the topic Poetry: National Memory Day Poetry Prizes – closes 5/10/18 in the forum Competitions, Open calls and Writing Opportunities 7 years, 7 months ago
Poetry competition: National Memory Day Poetry Prize
Win prizes for poems about memories and caring for someone with memory loss
There are two categories in the competition, which is part of the National Memory Day project.
1. The National Memory Day Prize is for poems on the theme of ‘memories’.
2. The Primary Carer Voice Prize is for…[Read more] - Load More
