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Squidge replied to the topic My failure in the forum Podium 7 years, 7 months ago
Oh goodness, yes – we are our own worst critics!!
On the cloud, we often talked about ‘failure’ and ‘success’ and how differently people perceived the definitions of them. So I completely understand that you view not being placed as failure – it was one of a whole range of responses we used to get.
Me – I enter very few comps because I hated…[Read more]
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GippsGirl replied to the topic Guidance on writing about mental health topics in the forum Marketplace 7 years, 7 months ago
On the How to get an Agent thread, page 3. In any event, here is the course:
https://www.faberacademy.co.uk/creative-writing-courses/who-do-you-think-they-are-character-creative-writing-course-gic2.htmlThe course is horrendously expensive, and the course info is a little misleading in that the tutoring is only in the morning. Nevertheless, I,…[Read more]
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Squidge replied to the topic My failure in the forum Podium 7 years, 7 months ago
Definitely not failure if you’ve tried some comps – you had to write the bloomin’ entry first! And from experience, competitions can be a matter of luck as well as great writing – does the judge like your particular genre? Your style? I know from peer-judging comps on the cloud, my own preference for reading material comes through in the kind of…[Read more]
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John S Alty replied to the topic Den monthly competition September 2018 in the forum Competitions, Open calls and Writing Opportunities 7 years, 7 months ago
A New Dawn
A blood red sun rose through the smoke from a thousand cooking fires, smoke that hung like mist over distant Alexandra township. A typical African morning on the highveld, but this was not a typical day. Daniel and his mother stepped from the bus onto the dusty road and followed the other passengers. Daniel wished his father could be…[Read more]
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Jonathan posted an update 7 years, 7 months ago
Quick question: has anyone here ever paid for the services of an editor, and if so, how much was it?
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I had a detailed editorial report a few years back from Writers’ Workshop. 85,000 words cost Β£457. Today, Jericho writers will charge you about Β£547 for the same work. (I say ‘about’ because they quote $720 – which is odd for a UK based firm)
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If you go to their site, there’s a drop-down table of charges for a range or word counts.
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I did the same as Ath – several times over. Price is often based on the length of your manuscript, and varies from editor to editor/company to company.
But a good editor is definitely worth paying for – just be absolutely certain that your MS is as polished as you can get it before you send it (use trusted beta readers for eg) to save doing it…[Read more]-
I paid ~Β£600 for a 109K ms via the Cloud, but have since learned it is cheaper, by ~30% to approach an editor direct.
You may find that authors in the genre you write in are willing to edit – there’s certainly loads on the crime circuit.
I have to say I got far more help from beta readers.
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Ah yep, thanks. There I am looking at Β£782. Was yours a copy edit or developmental, or something else?
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Not sure who you are asking, but mine was development, ‘does this have legs?’ (In hindsight, I think I might’ve been robbed.)
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I’d also recommend that before submitting to an editor, you have someone proofread it properly – get the punctuation right (if that’s not your strength) and typos sorted.
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Mine covered the structure, story, development etc. in some depth with recommendations and critique and an assessment of good and bad features and marketability. There was copy-editing but this was not the primary purpose.
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Is this for an editorial report, or to actually edit the text?
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Mine? I’m looking at a developmental edit rather than copyediting.
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Ah, right. I do the latter, but not really the former
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I have, Jonathan, a couple of times. Mine was for an editorial report, but included a general text edit. I went directly to a book doctor/editor rather than through Cloud. As I have already seen mentioned, they tend to be more competitively priced and thorough, though it depends what you’re after.
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When I’ve looked into developmental editing, the cost seems to come to a couple of thousand at least, for a 140,000 word MS. The JW one is about Β£780 which is a bit more do-able. Who have people used?
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I always ask for Debi, cos she is editrix supreme. It meant I had to wait sometimes, but it was always worth it. Not sure who else they have on the books for editing…
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Philippa East replied to the topic My failure in the forum Podium 7 years, 7 months ago
@alanr, commiseration on the “failures”, but it’s never a failure to put your work out there and to try. Glad you got some useful feedback at your one–to-one and you’ve found a way to implement it
@bellam I am excited about the new computer. I do agree that we remain writers even when not physically writing. It’s nice that you can see that your…[Read more]
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Philippa East replied to the topic Getting an Agent. in the forum Blogs 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi @alanr. My hair IS kind of chestnut, but I wouldn’t call it vivid! So don’t think that was me…. Hope we will cross paths another time.
Yes @daedalus – I suspect there is a US / UK split. The writer I knew who kept putting “c”s on things was from the States.
I think I recall @Debi weighing in on the discussion previously to say no “c”…[Read more]
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Philippa East posted an update 7 years, 7 months ago
Thank-you for the bum-kicks everyone! They were great, and it was idea of tea that did it in the end (surprise!). I have rewritten the scene. It’s not perfect, but it’s done. Phew.
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Bella replied to the topic My failure in the forum Podium 7 years, 7 months ago
My significant failure this year has been to have written nothing.
I am not sure that there is much I can learn from that failure, but I have discovered that the desire to write is not one of the flash-in-the pan obsessions to which I am prone. The desire is still there, and I have valid reasons for the mojo loss.
I am hitting the half-century…[Read more]
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Daedalus replied to the topic Getting an Agent. in the forum Blogs 7 years, 7 months ago
I suspect there might be a difference between US and UK practice as far as copyright goes. In the UK, copyright is presupposed so you don’t need to do anything to assert it. In the US it may be a bit less clear cut
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Daedalus replied to the topic Short Story Publication/Competition in the forum Podium 7 years, 7 months ago
Indeed it is. Well done John. That’s an amazingly fast turnaround as well, they must have loved it
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Philippa East replied to the topic Short Story Publication/Competition in the forum Podium 7 years, 7 months ago
Congrats! This is great.
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Philippa East replied to the topic Getting an Agent. in the forum Blogs 7 years, 7 months ago
Yes, there’s been previous discussions about this. Bottom line, no need to copyright (or to put that copyright “c” on any docs.)
Putting that “c” on looks naive at best, narcissistic at worst!
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Philippa East posted an update 7 years, 7 months ago
Can someone give me a kick up the bum to rewrite this chapter that needs fixing? I’ve got the dead, but run out of steam…
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*got the ideas, I meant
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Sending much steam, and also mild violence…
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Gaaaargh
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A purely figurative kick from me. Also would a cup of tea help replenish the steam?
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Yes!!
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I’ll put the kettle on π
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Well, if you don’t write it. someone else will. And while they won’t do as good a job, theirs will nevertheless be the last word.
How’m I doing in the bum-kicking leaderboard? π
In seriousness: if you are struggling with just filling the space and doing it, why not have a play? Load the scene with symbolism. Pack out the scenery with things…[Read more]
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You can do it. You’re on the final stretch!
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Got it!
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Philippa East replied to the topic Guidance on writing about mental health topics in the forum Marketplace 7 years, 7 months ago
Oh! Where is that thread, please, @gippsgirl ?
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John S Alty replied to the topic Getting an Agent. in the forum Blogs 7 years, 7 months ago
An author’s work is automatically copyrighted as soon as it’s produced. Registering copyright is not necessary. All registration does is make legal pursuit of a plagiarist a little easier.
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Raine replied to the topic Getting an Agent. in the forum Blogs 7 years, 7 months ago
Gosh, no @alanr! That seems fairly ott and kind of paranoid. Plus a lot of hassle, right? Spending time and money to copyright something on the small chance that an agent will like it, and even smaller chance that they can be bothered stealing a promising idea rather than just requesting a full ms.
Who was the published author? I’m intrigued…[Read more]
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Raine replied to the topic Short Story Publication/Competition in the forum Podium 7 years, 7 months ago
Well done, @johnalty!! That’s fab – will pop over and have a read.
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